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From: "McLaughlin, Sandra M" <Sandra.McLaughlin () astrazeneca ! com>
Date: 2018-05-30 15:03:32
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If it's any help, Simon, I had a very similar problem, and I set \
afmDirLookupRefreshIntervaland afmFileLookupRefreshInterval to one day on an AFM \
cache fileset which only had software on it. It did make a difference to the users. \
And if you are really desperate to push an application upgrade to the cache fileset, \
there are other ways to do it.
Sandra
From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org \
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org] On Behalf Of \
Venkateswara R Puvvada
Sent: 30 May 2018 15:30
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org>
Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] AFM negative file caching
> I wasn't sure if afmDirLookupRefreshIntervaland afmFileLookupRefreshIntervalwould \
> be the right thing if it's a file/directory that doesn't exist?
These refresh intervals applies to all the lookups and not just for negative lookups. \
For working around in AFM itself, you could try setting these refresh intervals to \
higher value if cache does not need to validate with home often.
~Venkat (vpuvvada@in.ibm.com<mailto:vpuvvada@in.ibm.com>)
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Date: 05/30/2018 06:14 PM
Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] AFM negative file caching
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Another possible workaround would be to add wrappers for these apps and only add the \
AFM based gpfs directory to the LD_LIBARY_PATH when about to launch the app.
-- ddj
Dave Johnson
> On May 30, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Peter Serocka \
> <peserocka@gmail.com<mailto:peserocka@gmail.com>> wrote:
> As a quick means, why not adding /usr/lib64 at the beginning of LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
>
> (Not to get started on using LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the first place…)
>
>
> — Peter
>
> > On 2018 May 30 Wed, at 13:52, Simon Thompson (IT Research Support) \
> > <S.J.Thompson@bham.ac.uk<mailto:S.J.Thompson@bham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We have a file-set which is an AFM fileset and contains installed software.
> >
> > We've been experiencing some performance issues with workloads when this is \
> > running and think this is down to LD_LIBRARY_PATH being set to the software \
> > installed in the AFM cache, e.g.
> > /gpfs/apps/somesoftware/v1.2/lib
> >
> > Subsequently when you run (e.g.) "who" on the system, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is being \
> > searched for e.g. libnss_ldap, which is in /usr/lib64. We're assuming that AFM is \
> > checking with home each time the directory is processed (and other sub \
> > directories like lib/tls) and that each time AFM is checking for the file's \
> > existence at home. Is there a way to change the negative cache at all on AFM for \
> > this one file-set? (e.g as you might with NFS). The file-set only has \
> > applications so changes are pretty rare and so a 10 min or so check would be fine \
> > with me.
> > Thanks
> >
> > Simon
> >
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If it's any help, \
Simon, I had a very similar problem, and I set </span><b><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#2F2F2F">afmDirLookupRefreshInterval</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt">and </span><b><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#2F2F2F">afmFileLookupRefreshInterval </span></b><span \
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">to one day on an AFM cache fileset which only had \
software on it. It did make a difference to the users. And if you are really \
desperate to push an application upgrade to the cache fileset, there are other ways \
to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sandra<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> \
gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org \
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Venkateswara R \
Puvvada<br> <b>Sent:</b> 30 May 2018 15:30<br>
<b>To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] AFM negative file caching<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>I wasn't sure if \
</span><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#2F2F2F">afmDirLookupRefreshInterval</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt">and </span><b><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#2F2F2F">afmFileLookupRefreshInterval</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt">would be the right thing if it's a file/directory that \
doesn't exist?</span><br> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt">These refresh intervals applies to all the lookups and \
not just for negative lookups. </span><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">For working around \
in AFM itself, you could try setting these refresh intervals to higher value if cache \
does not need to validate with home often.</span><br> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">~Venkat (<a \
href="mailto:vpuvvada@in.ibm.com">vpuvvada@in.ibm.com</a>)</span><br> <br>
<br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Another possible workaround would be to add \
wrappers for these apps and only add the AFM based gpfs directory to the \
LD_LIBARY_PATH when about to launch the app. </span></tt><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br> <br>
<tt> -- ddj</tt><br>
<tt>Dave Johnson</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>> On May 30, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Peter Serocka <<a \
href="mailto:peserocka@gmail.com">peserocka@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</tt><br> \
<tt>> </tt><br> <tt>> As a quick means, why not adding /usr/lib64 at the \
beginning of LD_LIBRARY_PATH?</tt><br> <tt>> </tt><br>
<tt>> (Not to get started on using LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the first place…)</tt><br>
<tt>> </tt><br>
<tt>> </tt><br>
<tt>> — Peter</tt><br>
<tt>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> On 2018 May 30 Wed, at 13:52, Simon Thompson (IT Research Support) \
<<a href="mailto:S.J.Thompson@bham.ac.uk">S.J.Thompson@bham.ac.uk</a>> \
wrote:</tt><br> <tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> Hi All,</tt><br>
<tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> We have a file-set which is an AFM fileset and contains installed \
software.</tt><br> <tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> We've been experiencing some performance issues with workloads when this \
is running and think this is down to LD_LIBRARY_PATH being set to the software \
installed in the AFM cache, e.g.</tt><br> <tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> /gpfs/apps/somesoftware/v1.2/lib</tt><br>
<tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> Subsequently when you run (e.g.) "who" on the system, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is \
being searched for e.g. libnss_ldap, which is in /usr/lib64. We're assuming that AFM \
is checking with home each time the directory is processed (and other sub directories \
like lib/tls) and that each time AFM is checking for the file's existence at home. \
Is there a way to change the negative cache at all on AFM for this one file-set? (e.g \
as you might with NFS). The file-set only has applications so changes are pretty rare \
and so a 10 min or so check would be fine with me.</tt><br>
<tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> Thanks</tt><br>
<tt>>> </tt><br>
<tt>>> Simon </tt><br>
<tt>>> </tt><br>
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