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List:       gnupg-users
Subject:    Re: Documentation about --list-secret-keys output
From:       mogliii <mogliii () gmx ! net>
Date:       2017-04-07 9:51:26
Message-ID: 75952932-dca6-17cb-919c-920e3cc6b8cb () gmx ! net
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Dear Werner,

Thank you for the fix. I think the explanation in the manpage is more
clear now.

Any idea how to delete subkey stubs so that they show deleted in
enigmail as well?

--- a/doc/gpg.texi
<https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=37e1ff10a8b154b9ee5532478818443bcee13681>
                
+++ b/doc/gpg.texi
<https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=c0d7cc4e900ce389c0f458a77c64a0974248495b;hb=9c9fde1495be4accf4526a2626110876fd9d788d>
 @@ -301,10
<https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=37e1ff10a8b154b9ee5532478818443bcee13681#l301>
 +301,13
<https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=c0d7cc4e \
900ce389c0f458a77c64a0974248495b;hb=9c9fde1495be4accf4526a2626110876fd9d788d#l301> @@ \
and other programs.  @itemx -K
 @opindex list-secret-keys
 List the specified secret keys.  If no keys are specified, then all
-known secret keys are listed.  A @code{#} after the letters @code{sec}
-means that the secret key is not usable (for example, if it was
-exported using @option{--export-secret-subkeys}).  See also
-@option{--list-keys}.
+known secret keys are listed.  A @code{#} after the intial tags
+@code{sec} or @code{ssb} means that the secret key or subkey is
+currently not usable.  We also say that this key has been taken
+offline (for example, a primary key can be taken offline by exported
+the key using the command @option{--export-secret-subkeys}).  A
+@code{>} after these tags indicate that the key is stored on a
+smartcard.  See also @option{--list-keys}.
 
 @item --list-signatures
 @opindex list-signatures




On 04/07/2017 05:29 PM, Werner Koch wrote:
> On Thu,  6 Apr 2017 05:03, mogliii@gmx.net said:
> 
> > sec#  4096R/XXXXXAB 2017-XX-XX [expires: 20XX-XX-XX]
> > uid                  My name <name@provider.tdl>
> > ssb>  2048R/XXXXXBB 2017-XX-XX
> > ssb>  2048R/XXXXXCB 2017-XX-XX
> > ssb>  2048R/XXXXXDB 2017-XX-XX
> The man page explains the '#' under --list-secret-keys.  I just added a
> description of '>' to the man page.
> 
> 
> Shalom-Salam,
> 
> Werner
> 


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    Dear Werner,<br>
    <br>
    Thank you for the fix. I think the explanation in the manpage is
    more clear now.<br>
    <br>
    Any idea how to delete subkey stubs so that they show deleted in
    enigmail as well?<br>
    <br>
    <div class="diff from_file">--- a/<a class="path"
href="https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=37e1ff10a8b154b9ee5532478818443bcee13681">doc/gpg.texi</a></div>
  <div class="diff to_file">+++ b/<a class="path"
href="https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=c0d \
7cc4e900ce389c0f458a77c64a0974248495b;hb=9c9fde1495be4accf4526a2626110876fd9d788d">doc/gpg.texi</a></div>
  <div class="diff chunk_header"><span class="chunk_info">@@ <a
          class="list"
href="https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=doc/gpg.texi;h=37e1ff10a8b154b9ee5532478818443bcee13681#l301">-301,10</a>
  <a class="list"
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7cc4e900ce389c0f458a77c64a0974248495b;hb=9c9fde1495be4accf4526a2626110876fd9d788d#l301">+301,13</a>
  @@</span><span class="section"> and other programs.</span></div>
    <div class="diff ctx"> @itemx -K</div>
    <div class="diff ctx"> @opindex list-secret-keys</div>
    <div class="diff ctx"> List the specified secret keys.  If no keys are specified, \
then all</div>  <div class="diff rem">-known secret keys are listed.  A @code{#} \
after the letters @code{sec}</div>  <div class="diff rem">-means that the secret key \
is not usable (for example, if it was</div>  <div class="diff rem">-exported using \
@option{--export-secret-subkeys}).  See also</div>  <div class="diff \
rem">-@option{--list-keys}.</div>  <div class="diff add">+known secret keys are \
listed.  A @code{#} after the intial tags</div>  <div class="diff add">+@code{sec} or \
@code{ssb} means that the secret key or subkey is</div>  <div class="diff \
add">+currently not usable.  We also say that this key has been taken</div>  <div \
class="diff add">+offline (for example, a primary key can be taken offline by \
exported</div>  <div class="diff add">+the key using the command \
@option{--export-secret-subkeys}).  A</div>  <div class="diff add">+@code{&gt;} after \
these tags indicate that the key is stored on a</div>  <div class="diff \
add">+smartcard.  See also @option{--list-keys}.</div>  <div class="diff ctx"> </div>
    <div class="diff ctx"> @item --list-signatures</div>
    <div class="diff ctx"> @opindex list-signatures</div>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/07/2017 05:29 PM, Werner Koch
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:87k26wfwnx.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de"
      type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">On Thu,  6 Apr 2017 05:03, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" \
href="mailto:mogliii@gmx.net">mogliii@gmx.net</a> said:

</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">sec#  4096R/XXXXXAB 2017-XX-XX [expires: 20XX-XX-XX]
uid                  My name <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:name@provider.tdl">&lt;name@provider.tdl&gt;</a> ssb&gt;  2048R/XXXXXBB \
2017-XX-XX ssb&gt;  2048R/XXXXXCB 2017-XX-XX
ssb&gt;  2048R/XXXXXDB 2017-XX-XX
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
The man page explains the '#' under --list-secret-keys.  I just added a
description of '&gt;' to the man page.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner

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