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List:       gentoo-user
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version
From:       Dale <rdalek1967 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2022-11-15 0:10:25
Message-ID: ae18f03c-443c-c386-c69f-40a31d1d0eab () gmail ! com
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Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 14 November 2022 21:05:57 GMT Dale wrote:
>
>> Thing is, I may go a year, sometimes more, without updating the kernel. 
>> If I rebooted often, I could see using a LTS kernel.  If a kernel can
>> run for months with no problems, it's stable enough for me.  Plus my
>> hardware works.
> Keeping the same kernel running for long periods can leave you exposed to 
> security vulnerabilities.  Either stable or LTS kernels will be similarly 
> exposed, if their latest backported versions are not booted with.  I 
> appreciate you're not running a public server so your profile is not as much 
> at risk, but bad code in some application which hasn't been patched up could 
> still leave you exposed.
>
>
>> I have even built a kernel but never actually booted it.  By the time I
>> get around to rebooting, I've had to build another kernel.  I generally
>> always work from a known stable config tho.  The only reason I wouldn't
>> is if I build a new system and have to start from scratch.  I've also
>> had times when I had to update because my video drivers wouldn't build
>> with a older kernel version that I'm running.  That doesn't happen to
>> often but I recall running into that at least once. 
> Shutting down your desktop applications and rebooting with a new kernel takes 
> no longer than a couple of minutes.  I mean even busy bank customer web 
> portals have planned downtime.
>


That may be true.  I used to not mind rebooting as much but since I
started having to use the init thingy, I only do it when really
necessary.  Those init thingys have left a long term bad taste in my
mouth.  If I could, I'd likely never reboot.  Thing is, sometimes I have
a power outage and just have too. 

The other thing, my computer is my entertainment system as well.  My TV
runs close to 24/7.  I may pause a video if I'm outside or something but
other than that, it is playing something about all the time.  I do go to
town each Thursday morning to get my shots and pick up groceries. 
Because of my lengthy time between trips anywhere, I put a trickle
charger on my car.  Sitting for a week wasn't doing the battery any good. 

Another reason my system runs even if I'm not home, downloading of
files.  I'm almost always downloading something.  It's how I entertain
myself after all.  ;-)  Basically, this system is busy doing things,
multiple things, almost all the time. 


>> Either way, biggest question was if there was some known breakage
>> between my old version and a newer version.  Maybe the one I tried just
>> had some weird problem that only affected me or I just missed something
>> during the oldconfig.  I wish I could recall the error.  Who knows on
>> that. 
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> Did you diff your current good kernel .config and the new failed to boot 
> kernel .config, to find out what options/modules have changed.  Besides any 
> booting errors, this could point you to something which was missed in the new 
> kernel, or perhaps shouldn't have been configured.  That's how I go about 
> finding the cause of a non-booting kernel in the rare occasions I end up with 
> a lemon.


I tried to boot with new kernel, saw the error, rebooted into a older
kernel and carried on.  That was several months ago so no clue what the
error was. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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