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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for gentoostats implementation
From:       "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2 () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2020-05-25 2:47:56
Message-ID: robbat2-20200525T024245-846805570Z () orbis-terrarum ! net
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On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 11:57:03PM +0100, Andrey Utkin wrote:
> Since it is going to be opt-in and optional anyway, we seem to be fine with
> having just partial data.
> 
> I assume we have logs of distfiles downloads from Gentoo infrastructure, and
> can negotiate access to relevant logs of our mirrors. That constitutes partial
> data correlated with users' installation activity, as good as it gets.
This assumption is wrong at the root.

> If we do have some such data, are we using it in any way for the discussed
> purposes?
> 
> If we don't, but could get it, would we be able to use that data for these
> purposes? If no, why?
> 
> If we can't get the data, why?
Simply put: Gentoo does not run the last-mile edge of distfile distribution.

$ dig @ns1.gentoo.org +noall +answer distfiles.gentoo.org IN A
distfiles.gentoo.org.	7200	IN	A	64.50.233.100
distfiles.gentoo.org.	7200	IN	A	140.211.166.134
distfiles.gentoo.org.	7200	IN	A	64.50.236.52
$ echo 140.211.166.134 64.50.233.100 64.50.236.52 |fmt -1 |xargs -n1 dig +short -x 
ftp-osl.osuosl.org.
ftp-nyc.osuosl.org.
ftp-chi.osuosl.org.

And historically also TDS & another provider.

Plus all of the regional mirrors that don't even have .gentoo.org
hostnames.

I would like to replace the legacy http://distfiles.gentoo.org/
functionality with a redirection service, at which point you could have
partial data, but it answers a very different question than Goose.

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