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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-im/kmess, net-im/amsn, x11-themes/amsn-skins
From:       "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <nunojsilva () ist ! utl ! pt>
Date:       2014-10-19 10:47:33
Message-ID: m204s5$72m$1 () ger ! gmane ! org
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On 2014-10-19, Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) <nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt> wrote:
> On 2014-10-12, Nuno Silva (aka njsg) <nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt> wrote:
> > On 2014-09-02, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > They were already masked, but because of
> > > http://www.forbes.com/sites/amitchowdhry/2014/08/31/msn-messenger-is-completely-shutting-down-on-october-31st/
> > >  , I see no point having these packages in the tree anymore. I will
> > > remove them in 30 days
> > > 
> > > # Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> (02 Sep 2014)
> > > # MSN service terminated.
> > > # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype
> > > # or switch to an open protocol instead
> > > # Masked for removal in 30 days
> > > net-im/kmess
> > > net-im/amsn
> > > x11-themes/amsn-skins
> > > 
> > 
> > This is not the first time that people report that "MSN is going to shut
> > down". So far, Skype itself is reported to use the MSN protocol internally
> > in the latest versions. 
> > 
> > IMHO it would be better if the packages were removed because they don't
> > work with the current versions of MSNP supported by the servers than
> > because of a forbes article.
> > 
> > In fact, this article says "MSN Messenger is only available in mainland
> > China until then.". I have just connected two MSN Messenger accounts
> > through amsn 0.98.9 on gentoo and I successfully sent messages between
> > the accounts.
> > 
> > amsn seems to be working outside of china. You may want to reconsider
> > this mask for removal.
> 
> I filled bug 525100 about this
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525100
> 
> This bug report should perhaps be expanded to include other packages
> which are masked as part of the same "MSN service terminated" mask or
> similar.

To clarify:

The maintainers (perhaps the net-im herd) *have* to remove these masks
on the MSN Messenger clients, because they don't make sense at all:

  # Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> (02 Sep 2014)
  # MSN service terminated.
  # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype
  # or switch to an open protocol instead
  # Masked for removal in 30 days
  net-im/kmess
  net-im/amsn
  x11-themes/amsn-skins

The MSN Messenger service (aka "Windows Live Messenger", ...) is still
working, and it has never been terminated. MSN Messenger can actually
even be used to chat (in text) with (some) Skype users without having to
use net-im/skype.

amsn is still working as expected, you can even create new accounts and
make them work with the MSN Messenger service using amsn. A few days
ago, I successfully sent messages between two MSN Messenger accounts
connected using amsn.

-- 
Nuno Silva (aka njsg)
Helsinki, Finland


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