From gentoo-dev Sat Aug 09 15:58:23 2014 From: Chris Reffett Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:58:23 +0000 To: gentoo-dev Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=140759991410301 On August 9, 2014 11:46:54 AM EDT, Chris Reffett wrote: >On August 9, 2014 10:56:49 AM EDT, Igor wrote: >[snip] >>Just the main blockers are: >> >>- Somebody has to implement this technology >>- That requires time and effort >>- People have to be convinced of its value >>- Integration must happen at some level somehow somewhere in the >>portage toolchain(s) >>- People must opt in to this technology in order for the reports to >>happen >>- And only then can this start to deliver meaningful results. >> >> >> >>IMHO seriously, it could be done if ONLY portage dev team would >>implement >>an interface CAPABLE for HTTP reporting. Once the interface is there >>but turned off >>by default - server side statistics are feasible. Personally I don't >>see any future of >>this system unless it's coded in portage. Today - portage support >>without server side >>- tomorrow - server side. > >Then write it. Portage's source is available to anyone. I remember that >you were on this list earlier this year pushing for "Portage QOS" or >something. Keep in mind what a significant number of people told you >then: first, if you want to make some change, just do it and show us >what you have, rather than asking for votes and permission and changes. >Second, repeatedly saying "we should have (some feature)" doesn't work >if the people who would do the work (the portage team) don't see value >in it. From the general response on the list, I would say this is the >case. This means that if you want the feature, write it and come back >with an implementation, since complaining about it is getting you >nowhere. > >Chris Reffett Apologies for multiple emails getting sent, on a mobile connection here and it reported a failure to send. My bad. Chris Reffett -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.