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Subject:    [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge
From:       Igor <lanthruster () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-08-08 13:12:27
Message-ID: 53e4ccbd.c2b4700a.3bec.2414 () mx ! google ! com
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Hi,

About 60% of all the packages are installed and work with nodep flag 
without any problems for years. Most of the maintainers just depend on new 
packages not knowing if it's necessary or not resulting in a really HUGE 
update that in the absolute majority of cases destabilize GENTOO making it 
not operational and WORSE than it was before. You then STABILIZE it again 
spending hours and then the story repeats itself.

Experience show that out of 20 new dependencies pulled by 
emerge only 1 is critical and really needed to assemble the target.

Is there any option in emerge to pull MINIMUM packages to 
get the result - install the application you need, leaving everything else 
AS IS untouched and stable?

I would rather prefer and many would agree to use this kind of 
install instead of a full system update by default.

Is there any USE flag that can switch system to this kind of update instead
of conventional? If no such USE flag, what about stabilize gentoo with 
STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf?

Whoever needs everything new - can continue fighting with nature,
the rest of us who has a limited life span - well, they might go for 
STABILIZED flag and live happily ever after. 

What do you think?


-- 
Best regards,
 Igor                          mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com
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<span style=" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;">Hi,<br>
<br>
About 60% of all the packages are installed and work with nodep flag&nbsp;<br>
without any problems for years. Most of the maintainers just depend on new&nbsp;<br>
packages not knowing if it's necessary or not resulting in a really HUGE&nbsp;<br>
update that in the absolute majority of cases destabilize GENTOO making it&nbsp;<br>
not operational and WORSE than it was before. You then STABILIZE it again&nbsp;<br>
spending hours and then the story repeats itself.<br>
<br>
Experience show that out of 20 new dependencies pulled by&nbsp;<br>
emerge only 1 is critical and really needed to assemble the target.<br>
<br>
Is there any option in emerge to pull MINIMUM packages to&nbsp;<br>
get the result - install the application you need, leaving everything else&nbsp;<br>
AS IS untouched and stable?<br>
<br>
I would rather prefer and many would agree to use this kind of&nbsp;<br>
install instead of a full system update by default.<br>
<br>
Is there any USE flag that can switch system to this kind of update instead<br>
of conventional? If no such USE flag, what about stabilize gentoo with&nbsp;<br>
STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf?<br>
<br>
Whoever needs everything new - can continue fighting with nature,<br>
the rest of us who has a limited life span - well, they might go for&nbsp;<br>
STABILIZED flag and live happily ever after.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-family:'arial'; font-size: 8pt; color: #c0c0c0;"><i>--&nbsp;<br>
Best regards,<br>
&nbsp;Igor &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</i></span></span><a style=" font-family:'arial';" \
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