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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support 
From:       Samuli Suominen <ssuominen () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2014-05-31 11:17:32
Message-ID: 5389BA4C.8040106 () gentoo ! org
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On 31/05/14 05:47, Steven J. Long wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:57:01AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote:
>>> Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34
>>> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
>>>
>>>> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release
>>>> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as in, from current git master.
>>> Don't worry. Looking at the past, I can guess this is only a temporary
>>> inconvenience. I'm pretty sure upower will be discontinued soon
>>> and replaced with systemd-powerd or something :D.
>>>
>> That's more or less what they already did, they forced eg.
>> xfce4-power-manager upstream
>> to move the deleted pm-utils code from upower directly to the power
>> manager (application)
>> itself, likewise for xfce4-session
>> Which means applications will now need to duplicate the pm-utils related
>> code per application
>> basis
>> So I expect upower to be more or less dead for everything but systemd
>> users, except for
>> those upstreams that will actually follow the Xfce path and do the
>> duplication
>> Yet, still, small portition of the code is still 'generic', so
>> xfce4-power-manager will still need
>> both, upower, even 0.99, and then pm-utils, depending on the version,
>> codepath is selected
>>
>> This was sort of expected, since pm-utils has been abandoned for ~5
>> years now at upstream,
>> so nobody is maintaining non-systemd related power management tools
>> anymore, and
>> falling back to eg. manual laptop-mode-tools, acpid, etc. usage will be
>> necessary again,
>> it's like going back to 90s for non-systemd users :P
> I can't believe I'm reading that from a distro-developer. Basically this
> entire thread is "systemd is deprecating the existing tools, so let's dump
> them and half our userbase back to the 90s, isn't that a great thing?"

Then you misunderstood. Notice the ":P" as an indicator of sarcasm.
I've already created sys-power/upower-pm-utils where the sys-power/pm-utils
0.9 git branch will continue to live.


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