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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
From:       "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2013-12-16 22:41:40
Message-ID: 52AF81A4.1030206 () gentoo ! org
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On 12/14/2013 07:59 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> You make some good points. I'll answer your questions as best as I can,
> but we can consider this thread closed. I will not try to put the
> virtual in, but I will come back to the list soon and start another
> thread.
> 
> In a nutshell, our networking is a beast, and we should try to simplify
> it some how imo. I'll write out my thoughts about that when I start the
> other thread.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:24:10AM -0600, mingdao wrote:
>> (1) What is "the new network stack" provided by the newnet USE flag?
> 
> That consists of the network and staticroute scripts which are part of
> OpenRC. The network script sets up interfaces and configures static
> addresses only; it will allow you to run any command at any point in the
> process of doing this. What some people on Gentoo do not like about it
> is it is all or nothing. You can't start/stop/depend on a single
> interface.
> 
> The staticroute script is used to configure multiple static routes once
> the network script has set up the static addresses.
>  
>> (2) Why is dhcpcd referred to as a "network manager" in the same context as
>> wicd, networkmanager, connman, etc? In the sense that dhcpcd is not sufficient
>> for security protected wireless alone, as is, say, wicd; and is not a
>> replacement for true "network manager" apps. DHCP client != network manager
>> app
>  
>  This is a good point, so I will drop putting dhcpcd on the list.
So wait, who makes the call now?  dhcpcd is totally a network manager
for a lot of people who don't need wifi.  It has init scripts and
everything....

- -Zero
> 
>> (3) Is udhcpc provided by busybox not sufficient in lieu of dhcpcd for stage3? 
> 
> I think udhcpc is what you get in stage 3; if dhcpcd is there, I have no
> idea how it is getting there.
> 
> William
> 

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