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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests th
From:       yac <yac () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2013-07-27 11:18:48
Message-ID: 20130727131848.6a643f29 () gentoo ! org
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:13:37 -0400
"Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> On 07/27/2013 12:08 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
> > (I sent this to gentoo-releng@. Resending to gentoo-dev@ for a
> > wider audience)
> > 
> > Can we make autobuilds go to /experimental and then only move them
> > to /releases when someone actually tests them?
> > 
> > Looking at bugzilla and listening in #gentoo-releng, it's kind of
> > embarrassing how often someone downloads a Live CD only to find out
> > that networking is totally broken by a udev upgrade, or something to
> > that effect.
> > 
> > We don't commit version bumps straight to stable; I don't see why we
> > do with release media.
> > 
> 
> It's been an odd week for me agreeing with people but yeah, I
> completely agree.  I think we *need* to keep the autobuilds going as
> often as possible to detect obvious breakage, but there is no reason
> they shouldn't be marked experimental.
> 
> The real question is, how realistic can we make a process of testing
> and moving to stable?

openSUSE is using [openQA] for automated testing of installation media
which is pretty need something that starts a machine in KVM and
then simulates the user via a keyboard events.

Last year there was also a talk about it on osc12 [2]

[openQA] http://openqa.opensuse.org/
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57a9zmpA844

> - -Zero
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