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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
From:       Ian Stakenvicius <axs () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2013-04-24 16:58:21
Message-ID: 51780F2D.7060007 () gentoo ! org
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On 24/04/13 12:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
> 
> it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out
> into their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be
> developed independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC
> 0.12, which I hope to release soon.
> 
> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.*
> scripts will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate
> package that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet.
> 
> My plan is  to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released 
> telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet
> to get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe
> I'll change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts
> installed and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned
> off.
> 
> I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live 
> systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their
> news items and ewarns.
> 
> On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime 
> dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since
> OpenRC doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this
> would be abusing dependencies.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts?
> 
> William
> 


Current users should be able to do a -uDN and still have their
existing systems work as-is.  Whether you do this via a static
dependency or one controlled by a use flag (and be sure use flag
defaults would have oldnet installed by default) is up to you.

It's completely understandable that openrc -the project- doesn't
contain oldnet, but the end result on gentoo still should, by default,
imo.


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