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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs
From:       Amadeusz_Żołnowski <aidecoe () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2012-10-31 23:00:40
Message-ID: 20121031230040.4216.28804 () localhost
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Quoting Chris Reffett (2012-10-31 16:17:20)
> > Yep he should've assign them, but anyway the annoying elog messages
> > are an issue. And quite few packages suffer from it :-)

It would actually be hard to find useful message which place is in elog
showing up every install.  Why not move such thing on Wiki for example?


> I disagree on most of them (and have marked the KDE-related bugs as
> WONTFIX appropriately). Messages that tell the user about config
> options,

...are *really* annoying, especially when you read it 100th time and
especially the one from kdelibs: "Your homedir is set to
\${HOME}/.kde4".


> or "for x functionality install y" (at least until we get
> SDEPEND or something similar added to portage) should show up every
> time in my opinion.

elog message for optional dependencies could be unified if must be
shown every time.


> Only initial config and "you just enabled (flag)" really merits this.
> Basically, I would rather the user get too many elog messages than not

If you assume that users time have no value and we can flood them with
meaningless messages.


> enough, since I feel that a lot of people skip over them anyway and so
> the "only display once" method makes it far too easy for important
> messages to get lost in the shuffle.

If user gets hundreds of such useless messages it is almost sure that
he/she will miss few hidden important messages.  The example could be
udev long elog message which ONE time has had hidden very important
message which I have unfortunately missed and ended up with unbootable
system.  In current form these messages have no use.

I have already highlighted this problem on mailing list:

Subject: [gentoo-dev] Useless messages (elog, ewarn, etc) in ebuilds
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