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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: seeds, GLEPs, and projects
From:       Christel Dahlskjaer <christel () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2006-09-25 1:32:41
Message-ID: 1159151122.4497.62.camel () gaspode
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On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 21:43 +0000, Peter wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:01:02 -0400, Mike Pagano wrote:
<snip>

Since you mentioned my name in your e-mail I figured I had something to
do with the delay on your becoming a developer, however, having
consulted bugzilla I find that this is not the case. Rather the
opposite, you requested that your bug be closed, which I presume means
that you decided you no longer had a wish to become a Gentoo developer. 

It is no secret however that the recruiters were struggling to keep up,
and still are to some extent, despite having recruited more recruiters
(my, that was a awkward sentence). As for delays, I can only speak for
those recruits assigned to myself, and there's no great time delays for
either of them. I generally opt for about a month from I pick them up
until I expect them  to be ready to interview and discuss their quizzes.
I currently am awaiting quizzes from a couple, and have a couple of
others who are marked and held up only by me waiting for them to get
back to me with a suitable time for us to sit down and go through their
quizzes in more of an informal interview style. My new recruits I
believe are happy, or atleast it would appear so from our talks
throughout their first months of devship. 

On occasion it may be difficult to arrange a time to sit down together,
be it due to time zone differences or trying to fit it in to both the
recruit and the recruiters otherwise busy schedule. As I am sure you've
heard many a time already, we all volunteer our time for Gentoo, and we
all work on other projects besides recruitment. This means that we can't
necessarily walk out of anything else we may be doing to sit down with
someone as and when they request it. Not only is availability affected
by other Gentoo projects, but also factors such as work, husbands,
wives, children, other hobbies and commitments taking up varying amounts
of time. I know I am having a tremendously busy time at the moment as I
am in the process of moving, changing careers, spending a lot of time on
one of my other projects due to the unexpected death of one of my
colleagues and friends. And sure, in my case this means that instead of
being able to tell a recruit that we can chat in  ten minutes I may ask
them that we talk in two days time at $rand o' clock, but this has not
been a problem so far. 

I guess, another factor is attitude, Gentoo doesn't pay enough for us to
sit around and take abuse, wait, it doesn't pay at all.. and so we are
less likely to expedite the process for someone who comes across as rude
and demanding. Generally speaking, I would spend more time with someone
who asked rather than demanded. And someone who discussed rather than
threw tantrums. 

Again, there's nothing stopping anyone from contributing while they are
waiting, you don't need a @gentoo.org e-mail address to fix bugs, and
for the most part the mentors are more than happy to proxy stuff on
their recruits behalf while they are waiting.  

Anyhow, it's 2.30am, I was looking over quizzes and then I shall head to
bed.




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