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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposition for stage3.
From:       Bart Verwilst <verwilst () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2002-06-18 16:22:19
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On Tuesday 18 June 2002 17:52, Dan Naumov wrote:
|| Hello.

Hi!

|| I just thought I'd share an idea I had about stage3. I think it would be
|| nice if it was usable for systems older then i686 and if it used -O1 or
|| -O2 instead of -O3. The reasons are simple:
||
|| The majority of the people who actually want to use stage3 do so because
|| of the time it takes to build the ENTIRE system from scratch. This
|| mainly applies to old PC's, which are obviously older then i686. I've
|| seen quite a few people on #gentoo complain that it is a major pain in
|| the ass to install Gentoo on an old system.

Gentoo 1.3a is already available for both i586 and i686, and i think 1.3b will 
be available for even more archs.. not 100% sure which ones though.. Maybe 
i486, for the very low-end gateways out there :o) Others are k6, athlon, ...

|| As for -O1 / -O2 instead of the default -O3, it's just that some people
|| want to be "safe". I've had all kinds of weirnesses and unexplainable
|| crashes due to software compiled with -O3 and no other optimisations.
|| These problems always went away after a recompile with -O2. And I am
|| pretty sure I am not the only one who thinks that way, because many
|| people I know got "burned" when utilising heavy opts.

Well, i maintain the gentoo 1.3 series of tarballs, and i think -O3 is what 
most of the people who want to download the tarballs want. -O3 is stable for 
the base system as far as i know, and the majority wants -O3.. I think if you 
want other flags than the ones in the tarball, just use stage2, and recompile 
it yourself.. At least that's my opinion on things.. IMHO -O3 isn't all that 
crazy for general use.

-- 
Bart Verwilst
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Gent, Belgium
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