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List:       gentoo-desktop
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-desktop] Gentoo hangs up. Solution is found!!!
From:       Chris Smart <taskara () internode ! on ! net>
Date:       2005-03-29 23:00:29
Message-ID: 4249EB8E.6090504 () internode ! on ! net
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Hi Rychkov,

The problem is not gentoo, the problem is your hardware. MANY computers 
out there are not 100% stable, but continue to work because they are not 
fully stressed when in operation.

Take your computer and Redhat for example. Redhat is a binary 
distribution, and as such your computer was probably never fully 
stressed and hence "instability" was not experienced.
Had you run a stress test under Redhat, I am confident that you would 
have started seeing instabilities when they were run.

By the same token, should you have installed Gentoo with binary GRP 
packages, I feel you would not have experienced instability.

This is why every computer I have built (and it is thousands) is fully 
stress tested and ironed out for bugs.

So my point is that your computer was never meant to work with those 
settings you had it set at, and Gentoo revealed it because it uses 100% 
of your computers resources when compiling. So it is not a problem with 
Gentoo at all. In fact Gentoo has done you a favour in showing you these 
problems - otherwise they will lead to an early death for your pc and 
data corruption and all sorts of nasties down the track.

The truth is that your computer still probably not 100% stable. As a 
test you can try running memtest86 on it, but the real test is something 
that stresses the computer - I recommend PRIME95.

Hope this helps you understand,

Cheers,

Chris

Rychkov wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Recently I posted about instability during gentoo compilation.
> After a long experiments problem was found.
> Reason is in BIOS settings. In processor part setting should be:
> Fast CPU command decode - disabled
> CPU drive strength - 2
> Enhance chip performance - disabled
> Force 4-way interlive - disabled
> Enable dram 4-K page mode - disabled
> DRAM clock - HCLK+PCICLK
>
> I am little upset that it is impossible to improve performance by 
> switching on any of parameters. Situation is strange. Gentoo uses most 
> aggressive code to achieve maximal performance, but in this case it is 
> impossible to enhance performance by BIOS settings. Red hat worked 
> stable with additional BIOS parameters. May be real cause of using 
> gentoo for desktop is not performance, but portage, rc-update and 
> env.d mechanisms flexibility?
>
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