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Subject:    Re: [Ganglia-general] Ganglia 3.6.1 and CentOS 6.5
From:       Jared David Baker <Jared.Baker () uwyo ! edu>
Date:       2015-02-21 21:01:14
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Sergio,

Thanks for the suggestion. I wrangled one of our network administrators and did some \
further debugging. However, before that, I went and physically removed the network \
switch (Juniper EX series) to see if it was an OS problem by just connecting two \
machines via cat6. Turns out, once I removed the switch and using `omping`, multicast \
was able to stay alive. After that, I went and talked with the network admin more and \
he looked into the switch configuration. Apparently multicast was on to be routed \
between different VLANs and thus after so long, would dump the packets for some \
reason. Turning multicast off and letting the switch assume it is just broadcast \
traffic completely fixed the issue. Perhaps someone will find this useful down the \
road.

Regards,

Jared

From: Sergio Ballestrero [mailto:sergio.ballestrero@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:58 AM
To: Jared David Baker
Cc: ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] Ganglia 3.6.1 and CentOS 6.5

Hello Jared,
yes, most likely this is because of multicasting.
Unless you really want to use multiple gmond as collectors, it's simpler and more \
robust to use unicast to the gmond on the host which runs gmetad. Otherwise, to debug \
multicast the first thing would be to tcpdump on the host running gmetad, to see that \
you are actually receiving multicast there.

Cheers,
 Sergio

On 19 Feb 2015, at 04:16, Jared David Baker \
<Jared.Baker@uwyo.edu<mailto:Jared.Baker@uwyo.edu>> wrote:


I posted a while back, left for a bit and am now coming back. I'm attempting to get \
Ganglia working on a cluster and have followed the instructions fairly closely (no \
radical changes). The issue that I'm having is that nothing is aggregating to gmetad. \
There are times when we see compute nodes for ~2 minutes, then they disappear and \
doesn't come back until I restart gmond (then another 2 minute cycle, etc.). I think \
it may perhaps be related to multicasting, but not quite sure. Here is some basic \
output:

[root@l1 ~]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.3.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 ib0
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 ib0
224.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         240.0.0.0       U         0 0          0 eth0
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.250   0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0

[root@l1 ~]# netstat -gn
IPv6/IPv4 Group Memberships
Interface       RefCnt Group
--------------- ------ ---------------------
lo              1      224.0.0.1
eth0            1      239.2.11.71
eth0            1      224.0.0.1
ib0             1      224.0.0.1
lo              1      ff02::1
eth0            1      ff02::202
eth0            1      ff02::1:ff11:fb15
eth0            1      ff02::1
eth1            1      ff02::1
ib0             1      ff02::1:ff3d:1
ib0             1      ff02::1

[root@l1 ~]# ip link show eth0
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen \
1000  link/ether 40:16:7e:11:fb:15 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

So I can see the multicast route is there, multicast is enabled on the interface. If \
I telnet to the client host from the gmetad server, I get the XML data. The switches \
in the cluster are configured to support multicast (as I'm told by our networking \
team). However, the web server still claims that all nodes are down, even though I \
can see gmond clearly running by checking the process and querying the node via \
telnet. I haven't seen anything relevant in the log file or when debugging gmetad in \
the foreground. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the \
suggestion. I wrangled one of our network administrators and did some further \
debugging. However, before that, I went and physically removed the network switch  \
(Juniper EX series) to see if it was an OS problem by just connecting two machines \
via cat6. Turns out, once I removed the switch and using `omping`, multicast was able \
to stay alive. After that, I went and talked with the network admin more and he \
looked  into the switch configuration. Apparently multicast was on to be routed \
between different VLANs and thus after so long, would dump the packets for some \
reason. Turning multicast off and letting the switch assume it is just broadcast \
traffic completely fixed  the issue. Perhaps someone will find this useful down the \
road.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> \
Sergio Ballestrero [mailto:sergio.ballestrero@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jared David Baker<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ganglia-general] Ganglia 3.6.1 and CentOS \
6.5<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Jared,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">yes, most likely this is because of \
multicasting.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Unless you really want to use multiple gmond as collectors, it's \
simpler and more robust to use unicast to the gmond on the host which runs \
gmetad.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Otherwise, to debug multicast the first thing would be to \
tcpdump on the host running gmetad, to see that you are actually receiving multicast \
there.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;Sergio<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19 Feb 2015, at 04:16, Jared David Baker &lt;<a \
href="mailto:Jared.Baker@uwyo.edu">Jared.Baker@uwyo.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
</div> <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I \
posted a while back, left for a bit and am now coming back. I&#8217;m attempting to \
get Ganglia working on a cluster and have followed the instructions fairly closely \
(no radical  changes). The issue that I&#8217;m having is that nothing is aggregating \
to gmetad. There are times when we see compute nodes for ~2 minutes, then they \
disappear and doesn&#8217;t come back until I restart gmond (then another 2 minute \
cycle, etc.). I think it may perhaps  be related to multicasting, but not quite sure. \
Here is some basic output:<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">[root@l1 ~]# \
netstat -rn</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Kernel IP \
routing table</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Destination \
&nbsp; &nbsp; Gateway &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Genmask &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \
Flags &nbsp; MSS Window &nbsp;irtt Iface</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">192.168.3.0 \
&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 255.255.255.0 &nbsp; U &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 ib0</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">192.168.1.0 \
&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 255.255.255.0 &nbsp; U &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 eth0</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">169.254.0.0 \
&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 255.255.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; U &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 eth0</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">169.254.0.0 \
&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 255.255.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; U &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 ib0</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">224.0.0.0 \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 240.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; \
&nbsp; U &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 \
eth0</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">0.0.0.0 \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 192.168.1.250 &nbsp; 0.0.0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \
UG &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 \
eth0</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">[root@l1 ~]# \
netstat -gn</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">IPv6/IPv4 \
Group Memberships</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Interface \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; RefCnt Group</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">--------------- ------ \
---------------------</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">lo &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;224.0.0.1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">eth0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;239.2.11.71</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">eth0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;224.0.0.1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">ib0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;224.0.0.1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">lo &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">eth0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::202</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">eth0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::1:ff11:fb15</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">eth0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">eth1 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">ib0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::1:ff3d:1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">ib0 &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ff02::1</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">[root@l1 ~]# \
ip link show eth0</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">2: eth0: \
&lt;BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP&gt; mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen \
1000</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">&nbsp; \
&nbsp; link/ether 40:16:7e:11:fb:15 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff</span><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 </div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">So I \
can see the multicast route is there, multicast is enabled on the interface. If I \
telnet to the client host from the gmetad server, I get the XML data. The switches  \
in the cluster are configured to support multicast (as I&#8217;m told by our \
networking team). However, the web server still claims that all nodes are down, even \
though I can see gmond clearly running by checking the process and querying the node \
via telnet. I haven&#8217;t  seen anything relevant in the log file or when debugging \
gmetad in the foreground. Any help would be greatly \
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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