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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fw: petition to remove Aaron Swartz prosecutor
From: Gage Bystrom <themadichib0d () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-03-29 15:58:13
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Keep in mind the largest part about the backlash against you is your
constant over the top, borderline comical reaction to people criticising
you. You keep freaking out more and more and yelling at random people its
quite amusing.
On Mar 29, 2013 8:20 AM, "Jerry dePriest" <jerryde@mc.net> wrote:
> **
> I read the TOU and my "topic" is not political. It has to do with evidence
> and foresnics. Sorry you persons being obtuse couldn't pick up on this and
> just let it be. Better yet, why not offer info on how to gather info from
> archive sites that maybe be of use to everyone? No, you go out of your way
> to say i'm wrong, my post is wrong, etc.
>
> In this age of technology not one person asked about what type of evidence
> could be gleaned and ways to do it. I have been offline for health reasons
> and come back to see fd is going shit...
>
> It's like when Markus Ranum sold Blackice. A good product turned to crap
> by lusers...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Steve Wray <stevedwray@gmail.com>
> *To:* Full Disclosure List <full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2013 9:48 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Full-disclosure] petition to remove Aaron Swartz
> prosecutor
>
> I'm not a moderator (OBVIOUSLY) but I'll just leave this here, from the
> list charter:
>
> <quote>
> Acceptable Content
>
> Any information pertaining to vulnerabilities is acceptable, for instance
> announcement and discussion thereof, exploit techniques and code, related
> tools and papers, and other useful information.
>
> Gratuitous advertisement, product placement, or self-promotion is
> forbidden. Disagreements, flames, arguments, and off-topic discussion
> should be taken off-list wherever possible.
>
> Humour is acceptable in moderation, providing it is inoffensive. Politics
> should be avoided at all costs.
> </quote>
>
> I'm thinking mainly "Self promotion" and "POLITICS... avoided... all costs"
>
> Enough said?
>
>
>
> On 29 March 2013 21:34, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Jerry dePriest <jerryde@mc.net> wrote:
> > > and this is pertinent to the list? another asshole that psts to the list
> > > with bullshit (in my eyes) then you go off on me for what I think is
> > > important.
> > It appears you did not have your bowl of Cheerio's this morning....
> >
> > Who was the young lady? Perhaps a close friend or relative?
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gary Baribault
> > > To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
> > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] petition to remove Aaron Swartz
> > prosecutor
> > >
> > > I didn't know the gentleman, but have known some depressive people.
> > There
> > > may have been other problems bothering him in his life, but spending a
> > > fortune on a lawyer to try and avoid 30 - 50 years in prison and the
> > > reputation that he would have if he ever got out is probable quite near
> > the
> > > top of the list of things setting his mind frame and causing this
> > > unfortunate decision. The powers that be have blood on their hands and
> > > hopefully are having rather poor nights sleep these days. Personally I
> > would
> > > be having trouble looking in the mirror for my daily shave.
> > >
> > > Gary Baribault
> > >
> > > On 01/14/2013 03:35 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:02:26 -0500, Jeffrey Walton said:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM, <richajap@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck
> >
> > >
> > > Above link to remove this prosecutor needs to have signatures by
> > > February 11.
> > >
> > > Its unfortunate Schwartz committed suicide over the incident.
> > >
> > > > From the fine article:
> > >
> > > "On his blog, Swartz had written of his history of depression."
> > >
> > > Given that, and the fact that the article doesn't mention a suicide note
> > > stating Aaron's reasons, it's not entirely clear that he in fact
> > committed
> > > suicide over the incident. It may have been one factor out of many.
> > >
> >
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<p>Keep in mind the largest part about the backlash against you is your constant over the top, \
borderline comical reaction to people criticising you. You keep freaking out more and more and \
yelling at random people its quite amusing.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 29, 2013 8:20 AM, "Jerry dePriest" <<a \
href="mailto:jerryde@mc.net">jerryde@mc.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> \
<u></u>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial">I read the TOU and my "topic" is not political. It
has to do with evidence and foresnics. Sorry you persons being obtuse
couldn't pick up on this and just let it be. Better yet, why not offer info on
how to gather info from archive sites that maybe be of use to everyone? No, you
go out of your way to say i'm wrong, my post is wrong, etc.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">In this age of technology not one person asked
about what type of evidence could be gleaned and ways to do it. I have been
offline for health reasons and come back to see fd is going
shit...</font></div><font face="Arial">
<div><br>It's like when Markus Ranum sold Blackice. A good product turned to
crap by lusers...</div>
<div> </div>
<div></div></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="stevedwray@gmail.com" \
href="mailto:stevedwray@gmail.com" target="_blank">Steve Wray</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk" \
href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk" target="_blank">Full Disclosure List</a> </div> \
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 29, 2013 9:48 AM</div> <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: \
[Full-disclosure] petition to remove Aaron Swartz prosecutor</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>I'm not a moderator (OBVIOUSLY) but I'll just leave this here, from the
list charter:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><quote></div>
<div>Acceptable Content</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Any information pertaining to vulnerabilities is acceptable, for instance
announcement and discussion thereof, exploit techniques and code, related tools
and papers, and other useful information.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>Gratuitous advertisement, product placement, or self-promotion is
forbidden. Disagreements, flames, arguments, and off-topic discussion should be
taken off-list wherever possible.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Humour is acceptable in moderation, providing it is inoffensive. Politics
should be avoided at all costs.</div></div>
<div></quote></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm thinking mainly "Self promotion" and "POLITICS... avoided... all
costs"</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Enough said?</div>
<div><br></div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 March 2013 21:34, Jeffrey Walton <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:noloader@gmail.com" target="_blank">noloader@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> \
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" \
class="gmail_quote"> <div>On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Jerry dePriest <<a \
href="mailto:jerryde@mc.net" target="_blank">jerryde@mc.net</a>> wrote:<br>> and this is \
pertinent to the list? another asshole that psts to the list<br>> with bullshit (in my \
eyes) then you go off on me for what I think is<br>> important.<br></div>It appears you \
did not have your bowl of Cheerio's this morning....<br><br>Who was the young lady? \
Perhaps a close friend or relative?<br><br>Jeff<br>
<div>
<div><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: Gary
Baribault<br>> To: <a href="mailto:full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk" \
target="_blank">full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk</a><br>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 \
3:46 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] petition to remove Aaron Swartz \
prosecutor<br>><br>> I didn't know the gentleman, but have known some depressive \
people. There<br>> may have been other problems bothering him in his life, but spending \
a<br>> fortune on a lawyer to try and avoid 30 - 50 years in prison and the<br>> \
reputation that he would have if he ever got out is probable quite near the<br>> top
of the list of things setting his mind frame and causing this<br>>
unfortunate decision. The powers that be have blood on their hands and<br>>
hopefully are having rather poor nights sleep these days. Personally I
would<br>> be having trouble looking in the mirror for my daily
shave.<br>><br>> Gary Baribault<br>><br>> On 01/14/2013 03:35 PM,
<a href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" target="_blank">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a>
wrote:<br>><br>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:02:26 -0500, Jeffrey Walton
said:<br>><br>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM, <<a \
href="mailto:richajap@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">richajap@fastmail.fm</a>> \
wrote:<br>><br>> <a \
href="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck" \
target="_blank">https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck</a><br>
><br>>
Above link to remove this prosecutor needs to have signatures by<br>>
February 11.<br>><br>> Its unfortunate Schwartz committed suicide over
the incident.<br>><br>> >From the fine article:<br>><br>> "On
his blog, Swartz had written of his history of depression."<br>><br>>
Given that, and the fact that the article doesn't mention a suicide
note<br>> stating Aaron's reasons, it's not entirely clear that he in fact
committed<br>> suicide over the incident. It may have been one factor
out of
many.<br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Full-Disclosure
- We believe in it.<br>Charter: <a \
href="http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html" \
target="_blank">http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html</a><br>Hosted and \
sponsored by Secunia - <a href="http://secunia.com/" \
target="_blank">http://secunia.com/</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> <p>
<hr>
<p></p>_______________________________________________<br>Full-Disclosure - We
believe in it.<br>Charter:
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target="_blank">http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html</a><br>Hosted and \
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</p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.<br>
Charter: <a href="http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html" \
target="_blank">http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html</a><br> Hosted and \
sponsored by Secunia - <a href="http://secunia.com/" \
target="_blank">http://secunia.com/</a><br></blockquote></div>
_______________________________________________
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