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Subject:    Re: [Full-disclosure] Evidence of fake security research from
From:       "Thor (Hammer of God)" <Thor () hammerofgod ! com>
Date:       2010-01-31 23:48:46
Message-ID: optid.4647afe476.A876923A2C9CD44BA76505F58ECF089DAC28D6 () gandalf ! optimum ! bm
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What journalists, bloggers, and security magazines?  I've not seen anything=
 about these people anywhere.

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From: full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bou=
nces@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Fabio Pietrosanti
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:41 PM
To: full-disclosure
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Evidence of fake security research from SecurSta=
r GmbH

Ok, now we have the evidence: The research was a fake security research arr=
anged for a marketing campaign.

They was able cheat most journalists, bloggers and security magazines.

I don't remember in all my life a so irresponsible and dirty marketing tric=
k in the security world, abusing of hackers reputations.

Read below, they leaked the IP of the anonymous author of http://infosecuri=
tyguard.com and it's confirmed that it come from SecurStar GmbH office:

Evidence that infosecurityguard.com/notrax is SecurStar GmbH - A fake indep=
endent research on voice crypto<http://infosecurity.ch/20100201/evidence-th=
at-infosecurityguard-comnotrax-is-securstar-gmbh-a-fake-independent-researc=
h-on-voice-crypto/> (by me)
Dishonest security: The SecurStart GmbH case<http://infosecurity.ch/2010020=
1/dishonest-security-the-securstart-gmbh-case/> (by me)
Debunking Infosecurityguard identity<http://www.lastknight.com/2010/01/31/d=
ebunking-infosecurityguard-com-identity/> from Matteo Flora .

It's hilarious and unbelievable that a security company had done something =
like this.

Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)

On 30/gen/10, at 15:51, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:


Hi all,

i don't know how many of you have read about the analysis done on http://in=
fosecurityguard.com .

I have made a detailed analysis of their initiative and the result is that:

- it's most probably a camouflage marketing initiative and not a independen=
t security research
- they consider a security context where local device has been compromised =
(no software can be secured in that case)
- they do not consider cryptographic security arguments

Below my analysis on this (read it carefully):

http://infosecurity.ch

Maybe it's interesting, maybe not, but for sure some facts are very relevan=
t!

Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)


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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fabio Pietrosanti<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> full-disclosure<br>
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SecurStar GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Ok, now we have the evidence: The research was a fake
security research arranged for a marketing campaign.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>They was able cheat most journalists, bloggers and security
magazines.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I don't remember in all my life a so irresponsible and dirty
marketing trick in the security world, abusing of hackers reputations.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Read below, they leaked the IP of the anonymous author of <a
href="http://infosecurityguard.com">http://infosecurityguard.com</a> and it's
confirmed that it come from SecurStar GmbH office:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://infosecurity.ch/20100201/evidence-that-infosecurityguard-comnotrax-is-securstar-gmbh-a-fake-independent-research-on-voice-crypto/">Evidence
 that infosecurityguard.com/notrax is SecurStar GmbH &#8211; A fake independent
research on voice crypto</a>&nbsp;(by me)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://infosecurity.ch/20100201/dishonest-security-the-securstart-gmbh-case/">Dishonest
security: The SecurStart GmbH case</a>&nbsp;(by me)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://www.lastknight.com/2010/01/31/debunking-infosecurityguard-com-identity/">Debunking
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<p class=MsoNormal>It's hilarious and unbelievable that a security company had
done something like this.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On 30/gen/10, at 15:51, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<br>
<br>
i don't know how many of you have read about the analysis done on <a
href="http://infosecurityguard.com">http://infosecurityguard.com</a> .<br>
<br>
I have made a detailed analysis of their initiative and the result is that:<br>
<br>
- it's most probably a camouflage marketing initiative and not a independent
security research<br>
- they consider a security context where local device has been compromised (no
software can be secured in that case)<br>
- they do not consider cryptographic security arguments<br>
<br>
Below my analysis on this (read it carefully):<br>
<br>
<a href="http://infosecurity.ch">http://infosecurity.ch</a><br>
<br>
Maybe it's interesting, maybe not, but for sure some facts are very relevant!<br>
<br>
Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)<o:p></o:p></p>

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