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Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] NoMachine NX 4 client and FreeNX
From: chris () ccburton ! com
Date: 2011-08-23 8:31:37
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freenx-knx-bounces@kde.org wrote on 22/08/2011 15:17:30:
> I think FreeNX is broken and needs to be fixed to add
NXPlayer support.
It's hardly broken Marcelo, just slightly different.
I'm not sure why you have expectations of forward compatibility.
> If NXPlayer is working fine with nxserver, then nomachine will not fix
> it to work with FreeNX.
The nxclients aren't Open Source anyway
and
nomachine are not making their V4 libraries Open-Source
so
you may well find they make it all work by updating the
V3 server to a subset of the V4 protocols
and
discontinuing all support for the V3 libraries,
including the V3 client
so
we may be on our own now anyway.
I guess Nomachine aren't too enamoured of FreeNX.
>
> The problem is that FreeNX is not 100% compliant with
> NXServer and it is
> hard to do that.
I doubt it needs to be unless you want multimedia support.
If you want NXplayer to work ASAP then :-
install Nomachine's own Free Edition
and
disable packet encryption
and
sniff the packets contents and tell us what is happening during a
session set up.
>
> Regards.
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Florian Schmidt <fschmidt@gmx.at>
wrote:
> > hmm, tested with the latest Version of nx player (NX4 client). Sorry
> > to say but it seems that this is still broken.
It's unlikely that anyone will want to spend much time on this
until Nomachine have finished beta testing.
If you are in a hurry Florian, then you can sniff the session set up
as described earlier.
If you are lucky there might just be some trivial message
re-formatting holding you up.
Welcome to Open Source, you want it, you (help) fix it, or you wait.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Florian
> >>
> >> Nomachine also say . . .
> >>
> >> Compatibility between the 3 and the 4 will be fully preserved.
> >> There may be bugs when connecting with a client 3 to a server 4 and
> >> viceversa.
> >> These bugs will be resolved in the final release.
There's not much point in doing anything until you know
Nomachine's NXPlayer actually works with Nomachine's server V3
AND
the V3 nxagent/libraries . . .
Does it, anyone ??
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<br><tt><font size=2>freenx-knx-bounces@kde.org wrote on 22/08/2011 15:17:30:<br>
<br>
> I think FreeNX is broken and needs to be fixed to add</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>NXPlayer support.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>It's hardly broken Marcelo, just slightly different.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I'm not sure why you have expectations of forward
compatibility.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>> If NXPlayer is working fine with nxserver, then
nomachine will not fix<br>
> it to work with FreeNX.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>The nxclients aren't Open Source anyway</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>and</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>nomachine are not making their V4 libraries Open-Source</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>so</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>you may well find they make it all work by updating
the</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>V3 server to a subset of the V4 protocols</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>and</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>discontinuing all support for the V3 libraries,</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>including the V3 client</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>so</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>we may be on our own now anyway.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I guess Nomachine aren't too enamoured of FreeNX.</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2><br>
> <br>
> The problem is that FreeNX is not 100% compliant with</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> NXServer and it is<br>
> hard to do that.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>I doubt it needs to be unless you want multimedia
support.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>If you want NXplayer to work ASAP then :-</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>install Nomachine's own Free Edition</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>and</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>disable packet encryption</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>and</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>sniff the packets contents and tell us what is happening
during a</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>session set up.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>> <br>
> Regards.<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Florian Schmidt <fschmidt@gmx.at>
wrote:<br>
> > hmm, tested with the latest Version of nx player (NX4 client).
Sorry<br>
> > to say but it seems that this is still broken.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>It's unlikely that anyone will want to spend much
time on this</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>until Nomachine have finished beta testing.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>If you are in a hurry Florian, then you can sniff
the session set up</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>as described earlier.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>If you are lucky there might just be some trivial
message</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>re-formatting holding you up.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Welcome to Open Source, you want it, you (help) fix
it, or you wait.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Florian<br>
> >><br>
> >> Nomachine also say . . .<br>
> >><br>
> >> Compatibility between the 3 and the 4 will be fully preserved.<br>
> >> There may be bugs when connecting with a client 3 to a server
4 and<br>
> >> viceversa.<br>
> >> These bugs will be resolved in the final release.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>There's not much point in doing anything until you
know </font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>Nomachine's NXPlayer actually works with Nomachine's
server V3</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>AND</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>the V3 nxagent/libraries . . .</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Does it, anyone ??</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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