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Subject:    Re: [FreeNX-kNX] How can I do Sizing?
From:       "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?7th_Sign_|_Iv=E1n_Rico?=" <7th_sign () soy-geek ! com>
Date:       2008-08-07 15:05:43
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Thanks, this information is really usefull, ok, I'm gonna buy this server:
2 Xeon Quad Core 3.0 GHz
8 GB Ram
4 ethernet ports


this server should be support 400 user, is this possible?

2008/8/7 Florian Schmidt <fschmidt@gmx.at>

> Hi,
>
> we monitor for Server sizing the following values:
> - Number of processes and threads
> - nx agents / users
> - load average (15min, 1min, 15sec)
> - Total CPU usage (user, nice, system, IO, IRQ, SoftIRQ)
> - Memory usage (used, free, buffers, cached, swap)
> - CPU usage per nx agent
> - number of TCP connections
> => all this values where messured by self written perl scripts and plotted
> with drraw (rrd graphing tool)
>
> Out of this messurements we found out that our machine:
>
> SUN Fire X4100 (2x DualCore Opteron 2.2GHz, 16GB Memory, Dual PowerSupply,
> RAID1)
>
> Can support at maximum 100 user sessions without getting performance issues
> for the user.
>
> The installation is a RedHat Enterprise Linux 4.6 with:
> - screensavers disabled (only black screen)
> - disabled gamin (gam_server)
> - disabled polling of virtual floppy/CD drive (provided by the service
> processor)
>
> It should be also possible to load the machine with a higher amount of
> sessions by providing a higher number of memory. Faster CPUs are not
> important (nothing should be computed on such a machine anyways) a higher
> number of cpu cores provides better user scaling. So maybe with a new
> X4100M2 with AMD QuadCore Opteron Processors and 8x4GB of memory it would be
> possible to provide 200 or more sessions on a single machine.
>
> This machine runs login sessions, shells, browser, some small interactive
> tools, everything taking more CPU or memory get's dispatched to the
> companies compute farm.
>
> I think it would be nice when also other people post there results in
> session scalability here so we can compare and learn.
>
> Cheers,
> Florian
>
> P.S.: Sorry but currently I am not allowed to post our monitoring scripts.
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:41:05 -0500
> > Von: "7th Sign | Iván Rico" <7th_sign@soy-geek.com>
> > An: "User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client" <freenx-knx@kde.org>
> > Betreff: [FreeNX-kNX] How can I do Sizing?
>
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I have a question, again =P
> >
> > it is about the sizing of the NX Server, I mean, how do I measure the
> > server?
> > I want to have the right especification.
> >
> > I was looking for ths but I don't have anything.
> >
> > Ivan Rico
>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks, this information is really usefull, ok, I&#39;m gonna buy this \
server:<br>2 Xeon Quad Core 3.0 GHz<br>8 GB Ram<br>4 ethernet ports<br><br><br>this \
server should be support 400 user, is this possible?<br> <br><div \
class="gmail_quote">2008/8/7 Florian Schmidt <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:fschmidt@gmx.at">fschmidt@gmx.at</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br>
<br>
we monitor for Server sizing the following values:<br>
- Number of processes and threads<br>
- nx agents / users<br>
- load average (15min, 1min, 15sec)<br>
- Total CPU usage (user, nice, system, IO, IRQ, SoftIRQ)<br>
- Memory usage (used, free, buffers, cached, swap)<br>
- CPU usage per nx agent<br>
- number of TCP connections<br>
=&gt; all this values where messured by self written perl scripts and plotted with \
drraw (rrd graphing tool)<br> <br>
Out of this messurements we found out that our machine:<br>
<br>
SUN Fire X4100 (2x DualCore Opteron 2.2GHz, 16GB Memory, Dual PowerSupply, RAID1)<br>
<br>
Can support at maximum 100 user sessions without getting performance issues for the \
user.<br> <br>
The installation is a RedHat Enterprise Linux 4.6 with:<br>
- screensavers disabled (only black screen)<br>
- disabled gamin (gam_server)<br>
- disabled polling of virtual floppy/CD drive (provided by the service processor)<br>
<br>
It should be also possible to load the machine with a higher amount of sessions by \
providing a higher number of memory. Faster CPUs are not important (nothing should be \
computed on such a machine anyways) a higher number of cpu cores provides better user \
scaling. So maybe with a new X4100M2 with AMD QuadCore Opteron Processors and 8x4GB \
of memory it would be possible to provide 200 or more sessions on a single \
machine.<br>

<br>
This machine runs login sessions, shells, browser, some small interactive tools, \
everything taking more CPU or memory get&#39;s dispatched to the companies compute \
farm.<br> <br>
I think it would be nice when also other people post there results in session \
scalability here so we can compare and learn.<br> <br>
Cheers,<br>
Florian<br>
<br>
P.S.: Sorry but currently I am not allowed to post our monitoring scripts.<br>
-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br>
&gt; Datum: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:41:05 -0500<br>
&gt; Von: &quot;7th Sign | Iván Rico&quot; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:7th_sign@soy-geek.com">7th_sign@soy-geek.com</a>&gt;<br> &gt; An: \
&quot;User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client&quot; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org">freenx-knx@kde.org</a>&gt;<br> &gt; Betreff: \
[FreeNX-kNX] How can I do Sizing?<br> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
&gt; Hello list,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have a question, again =P<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; it is about the sizing of the NX Server, I mean, how do I measure the<br>
&gt; server?<br>
&gt; I want to have the right especification.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I was looking for ths but I don&#39;t have anything.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ivan Rico<br>
<br>
</div></div>--<br>
Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen!<br>
Ideal für Modem und ISDN: <a href="http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer" \
target="_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer</a><br> \
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