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From: "lewis schmidt" <lewis.schmidt () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-08-04 15:24:18
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nine bucks really, that sound good. please... no hostilities please. this
is about fun.. i think any cost effective decision is a good one... and
seriously.. if you want good service.. sometimes its worth the money. busy
working right now as the resident script monkey so i don't have time to do a
review of services/fees.
has anyone seen/used anything from an opensource friendly company?
L
On 8/4/08, Kurt Godric <kgodric@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, If it were a shameless, pathetic plug, I would have plastered it with
> logos and inserted all kinds of references to the company name. I just
> wanted to throw the idea out there in the event you were interested. If you
> are not interested, I'm cool with that, but I want you to consider looking
> at the link below. It is a friend of mine that I do not make any money off
> of. He has great hosting pricing (starting at $9.00/month). His packages
> offer a lot of services at no additional charge, like hourly backups and so
> on.
>
> http://www.ewdhosting.com/hosting-packages.html
>
> All in all I just want to help the community, not make money off of you.
>
> Have a great day
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:13:22 -0400
> From: latez1@gmail.com
> To: freenx-knx@kde.org
> Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
>
> Thats a great idea Lewis, but then ... Kurt won't make a penny off you and
> as you have to understand...
> "this is not a shameless plug", he only wants to make something off a
> service for which you wish to offer freely to the community.
> Seriously Kurt that was just a pathetic and shameful offering. Perhaps you
> could have mailed him privately and offered it that way. When you send it
> out to the rest of the community you look pretty pathetic.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, lewis schmidt <lewis.schmidt@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> how about they do it pro-bono and cap the bandwidth :)
> IMO, we just need knowledge sharing.. not massive downloading of packages
> and source files.
>
> I think an ubuntu-wiki/debian-wiki could solve most of that need. For
> developement etc... how about a tally of how many people would actually be
> involved? I doubt that there would be such a huge need for such expensive
> services.. heck, i'd dedicate a cable modem to it if everyone agreed to
> it. cheap.
>
> L
>
>
> On 8/2/08, *Kurt Godric* <kgodric@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I work in a datacenter in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and have colo space and
> dedicated servers if you want to build your infrastructure in a great
> environment. We have all kinds of bandwidth available to us and can sell
> you anything you need. The datacenter hangs off of Atlanta's 10GigE metro
> fiber ring, and is broken down any way you need it. We also offer full
> monitoring services and server management services for just about any
> DC/Colocation in the world.
>
> Another thing that we have available are full sun cabinets with 2 Cisco
> switchs,IP KVM, 33 Sun Servers, and PDUs all wired and ready to plug and
> play for less than $10,000/rack. Perfect for building high density clusters
> or for dedicated servers.
>
> If you or anyone you know are interested, Please contact me and we can
> discuss this offline.
>
> By the way, this is not a shameless plug, as I have not given my company
> name, but an offer to assist in bettering this community. Unfortunately I
> cannot afford to give our services for free, but we are very compeditive and
> can work with you to build a solution that best fits your needs.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kurt
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:51 -0400
> From: lewis.schmidt@gmail.com
> To: freenx-knx@kde.org
> Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
>
> I'd like to motion that this is taken more seriously. I for one would
> dedicated time to working on any wiki. My preference is
> Deki-Wiki>Media-Wiki. I'm not sure what process is in place to make any
> formal decisions please educate me.
> thanks
> L
>
>
> On 8/2/08, *Terje Andersen* <terander@guard.zapto.org> wrote:
>
> ----- Melding fra FabianFranz@gmx.de ---------
> Dato: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:49:48 +0200
> Fra: Fabian Franz <FabianFranz@gmx.de>
> Svar-til: User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client <
> freenx-knx@kde.org>
> Emne: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
> Til: User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client <
> freenx-knx@kde.org>
>
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I got used to berlios, but as their services seem to degrade in
> > quality (wiki not writable) and our homepage is not current anyway,
> > I give out the following "jobs":
> >
> > - Website manager:
> >
> > Your task is to manage the FreeNX website possibly with a CMS in
> > background so that changes can be easily done by editors.
> >
> > - Docs manager:
> >
> > Your task is to write new docs and look into old docs if they are
> > current. It seems tan is doing that quite well already, but he might
> > need help.
> >
> > It also seems that classic bugtracking via berlios did not work out.
> >
> > I also would like to change to git for version control with a
> > central svn repository as master branch, so we can have several
> > branches and I can more easily pull from a tree or get Signed-Off
> > patches that I can easily apply or change.
> >
> > So any ideas where we can move, where we have a SVN, a very basic
> > bugtracking tool for reporting bugs with ML interface and a Wiki?
> >
> > Perhaps we could also use a TRAC for HP and Wiki and Bugs and
> > Tickets and leave the rest at berlios for now, while decreasing the
> > amount of services used from berlios.
> >
> > Is anyone willing to setup something like that for like freenx.org?
> > (We could point to your IP then ...)
> >
> > I think I am at a good stage for managing a stable version that is
> > changing, but still very stable. Also with RL management of 3 months.
> >
> > But the overall other things I would like to hear is what you think
> > we can do for managing the docs, HP and Wiki part more lively?
> >
> I know I've suggested this in the past, but since then nothing has happened
> to all these issues and in the meantime changes have been made to my
> proposed hostingplace: launchpad/bazaar from Canonical.
> I'm no developer myself, but I see many positive sideeffects by moving
> FreeNX to them - easier colloboration/contribution on translation,
> documentation, homepage management, bug reporting, etc. IMHO.
> I, for one, got more positive than before after reading these two
> pages/links:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/launchpad2-improves-collaboration
>
> http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/06/19/version-control-thanks-bitkeeper-welcome-bazaar/
> Hopefully this suits the developer side as well :-)
> Regards,
> Terje
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
> Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
> http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
> Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
> http://www.nomachine.com/kb/
>
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> ________________________________________________________________
> Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
> Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
> http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
> Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
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>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
> Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
> http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
> Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
> http://www.nomachine.com/kb/
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx
> ________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
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> Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
> http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
> Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
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>
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<div>nine bucks really, that sound good. please... no hostilities please. \
this is about fun.. i think any cost effective decision is a good one... and \
seriously.. if you want good service.. sometimes its worth the money. busy \
working right now as the resident script monkey so i don't have time to do a \
review of services/fees.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>has anyone seen/used anything from an opensource friendly company?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>L<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/4/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kurt Godric</b> \
<<a href="mailto:kgodric@hotmail.com">kgodric@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; \
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div>No, If it were a shameless, pathetic plug, I would \
have plastered it with logos and inserted all kinds of references to the company \
name. I just wanted to throw the idea out there in the event you were \
interested. If you are not interested, I'm cool with that, but I want you \
to consider looking at the link below. It is a friend of mine that I do not \
make any money off of. He has great hosting pricing (starting at \
$9.00/month). His packages offer a lot of services at no additional charge, \
like hourly backups and so on.<br> <br><a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="http://www.ewdhosting.com/hosting-packages.html" \
target="_blank">http://www.ewdhosting.com/hosting-packages.html</a><br><br>All in all \
I just want to help the community, not make money off of you.<br> <br>Have a great \
day<br><br><br> <hr>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:13:22 -0400<br>From: <a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:latez1@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">latez1@gmail.com</a> <div><span class="e" \
id="q_11b8e32596b26b82_1"><br>To: <a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" \
target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and \
Homepage<br> <br>
<div dir="ltr">Thats a great idea Lewis, but then ... Kurt won't make a penny off \
you and as you have to understand... <br>"this is not a shameless plug", he \
only wants to make something off a service for which you wish to offer freely to the \
community. <br> Seriously Kurt that was just a pathetic and shameful offering. \
Perhaps you could have mailed him privately and offered it that way. When you send it \
out to the rest of the community you look pretty pathetic.<br><br><br> <div>On Mon, \
Aug 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, lewis schmidt <span dir="ltr"><<a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:lewis.schmidt@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">lewis.schmidt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex">
<div>how about they do it pro-bono and cap the bandwidth :)</div>
<div>IMO, we just need knowledge sharing.. not massive downloading of packages and \
source files. </div> <div> </div>
<div>I think an ubuntu-wiki/debian-wiki could solve most of that need. For \
developement etc... how about a tally of how many people would actually be \
involved? I doubt that there would be such a huge need for such expensive \
services.. heck, i'd dedicate a cable modem to it if everyone agreed to \
it. cheap.</div>
<div> </div><font color="#888888">
<div>L<br><br> </div></font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div><span>On 8/2/08, <b>Kurt Godric</b> <<a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:kgodric@hotmail.com" \
target="_blank">kgodric@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote \
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"> <div>I work in a datacenter in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and \
have colo space and dedicated servers if you want to build your infrastructure in a \
great environment. We have all kinds of bandwidth available to us and can sell \
you anything you need. The datacenter hangs off of Atlanta's 10GigE metro \
fiber ring, and is broken down any way you need it. We also offer full \
monitoring services and server management services for just about any DC/Colocation \
in the world.<br> <br>Another thing that we have available are full sun cabinets with \
2 Cisco switchs,IP KVM, 33 Sun Servers, and PDUs all wired and ready to plug and play \
for less than $10,000/rack. Perfect for building high density clusters or for \
dedicated servers. <br> <br>If you or anyone you know are interested, Please \
contact me and we can discuss this offline.<br><br>By the way, this is not a \
shameless plug, as I have not given my company name, but an offer to assist in \
bettering this community. Unfortunately I cannot afford to give our services \
for free, but we are very compeditive and can work with you to build a solution that \
best fits your needs. <br> <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Kurt<br><br>
<hr>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:51 -0400<br>From: <a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:lewis.schmidt@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">lewis.schmidt@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" \
target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
<div><span><br><br>
<div>I'd like to motion that this is taken more seriously. I for one would \
dedicated time to working on any wiki. My preference is \
Deki-Wiki>Media-Wiki. I'm not sure what process is in place to make any \
formal decisions please educate me.</div>
<div>thanks</div>
<div>L<br><br> </div>
<div><span>On 8/2/08, <b>Terje Andersen</b> <<a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:terander@guard.zapto.org" \
target="_blank">terander@guard.zapto.org</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote \
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex">----- Melding fra <a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:FabianFranz@gmx.de" \
target="_blank">FabianFranz@gmx.de</a> ---------<br> Dato: Tue, 06 May \
2008 15:49:48 +0200<br> Fra: Fabian Franz <<a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:FabianFranz@gmx.de" \
target="_blank">FabianFranz@gmx.de</a>><br>Svar-til: User Support for FreeNX \
Server and kNX Client <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a>><br> \
Emne: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage<br> Til: \
User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client <<a onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" \
target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a>><span><br> <br><br>> Hello \
all,<br>><br>> I got used to berlios, but as their services seem to degrade \
in <br>> quality (wiki not writable) and our homepage is not current \
anyway, <br>> I give out the following "jobs":<br> ><br>> - \
Website manager:<br>><br>> Your task is to manage the FreeNX website possibly \
with a CMS in <br>> background so that changes can be easily done by \
editors.<br>><br>> - Docs manager:<br>><br> > Your task is to write new \
docs and look into old docs if they are <br>> current. It seems tan is doing \
that quite well already, but he might <br>> need help.<br>><br>> It \
also seems that classic bugtracking via berlios did not work out.<br> ><br>> I \
also would like to change to git for version control with a <br>> central \
svn repository as master branch, so we can have several <br>> branches and I \
can more easily pull from a tree or get Signed-Off <br> > patches that I can \
easily apply or change.<br>><br></span><span>> So any ideas where we can move, \
where we have a SVN, a very basic <br>> bugtracking tool for reporting bugs \
with ML interface and a Wiki?<br> ><br></span><span>> Perhaps we could also use \
a TRAC for HP and Wiki and Bugs and <br>> Tickets and leave the rest at \
berlios for now, while decreasing the <br>> amount of services used from \
berlios.<br>><br> > Is anyone willing to setup something like that for like <a \
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://freenx.org/" \
target="_blank">freenx.org</a>? <br>> (We could point to your IP then \
...)<br> ><br>> I think I am at a good stage for managing a stable version that \
is <br>> changing, but still very stable. Also with RL management of 3 \
months.<br>><br>> But the overall other things I would like to hear is what you \
think <br> > we can do for managing the docs, HP and Wiki part more \
lively?<br>></span><br>I know I've suggested this in the past, but since then \
nothing has happened to all these issues and in the meantime changes have been made \
to my proposed hostingplace: launchpad/bazaar from Canonical.<br> I'm no \
developer myself, but I see many positive sideeffects by moving FreeNX to them - \
easier colloboration/contribution on translation, documentation, homepage management, \
bug reporting, etc. IMHO.<br>I, for one, got more positive than before after reading \
these two pages/links:<br> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="http://www.ubuntu.com/news/launchpad2-improves-collaboration" \
target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/news/launchpad2-improves-collaboration</a><br><a \
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/06/19/version-control-thanks-bitkeeper-welcome-bazaar/" \
target="_blank">http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/06/19/version-control-thanks-bitkeeper-welcome-bazaar/</a><br>
Hopefully this suits the developer side as well :-)<br>Regards, \
<br>Terje<br><br>________________________________________________________________<br> \
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target="_blank">http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ</a><br> \
Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:<br> \
<a onclick="return \
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target="_blank">http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ</a><br> \
Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:<br> \
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target="_blank">http://www.nomachine.com/kb/</a><br><br>________________________________________________________________<br>
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