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Subject:    Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
From:       "Dave Latez" <latez1 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-08-04 14:13:22
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Thats a great idea Lewis, but then ... Kurt won't make a penny off you and
as you have to understand...
"this is not a shameless plug", he only wants to make something off a
service for which you wish to offer freely to the community.
Seriously Kurt that was just a pathetic and shameful offering. Perhaps you
could have mailed him privately and offered it that way. When you send it
out to the rest of the community you look pretty pathetic.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, lewis schmidt <lewis.schmidt@gmail.com>wrote:

> how about they do it pro-bono and cap the bandwidth :)
> IMO, we just need knowledge sharing.. not massive downloading of packages
> and source files.
>
> I think an ubuntu-wiki/debian-wiki could solve most of that need.  For
> developement etc... how about a tally of how many people would actually be
> involved?  I doubt that there would be such a huge need for such expensive
> services..  heck, i'd dedicate a cable modem to it if everyone agreed to
> it.  cheap.
>
> L
>
>
> On 8/2/08, Kurt Godric <kgodric@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I work in a datacenter in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and have colo space and
>> dedicated servers if you want to build your infrastructure in a great
>> environment.  We have all kinds of bandwidth available to us and can sell
>> you anything you need.  The datacenter hangs off of Atlanta's 10GigE metro
>> fiber ring, and is broken down any way you need it.  We also offer full
>> monitoring services and server management services for just about any
>> DC/Colocation in the world.
>>
>> Another thing that we have available are full sun cabinets with 2 Cisco
>> switchs,IP KVM, 33 Sun Servers, and PDUs all wired and ready to plug and
>> play for less than $10,000/rack.  Perfect for building high density clusters
>> or for dedicated servers.
>>
>> If you or anyone you know are interested, Please contact me and we can
>> discuss this offline.
>>
>> By the way, this is not a shameless plug, as I have not given my company
>> name, but an offer to assist in bettering this community.  Unfortunately I
>> cannot afford to give our services for free, but we are very compeditive and
>> can work with you to build a solution that best fits your needs.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:51 -0400
>> From: lewis.schmidt@gmail.com
>> To: freenx-knx@kde.org
>> Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
>>
>> I'd like to motion that this is taken more seriously.  I for one would
>> dedicated time to working on any wiki.  My preference is
>> Deki-Wiki>Media-Wiki.  I'm not sure what process is in place to make any
>> formal decisions please educate me.
>> thanks
>> L
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/08, *Terje Andersen* <terander@guard.zapto.org> wrote:
>>
>> ----- Melding fra FabianFranz@gmx.de ---------
>>     Dato: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:49:48 +0200
>>      Fra: Fabian Franz <FabianFranz@gmx.de>
>> Svar-til: User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client <
>> freenx-knx@kde.org>
>>     Emne: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage
>>      Til: User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client <
>> freenx-knx@kde.org>
>>
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I got used to berlios, but as their services seem to degrade in
>> > quality (wiki not writable) and our homepage is not current anyway,
>> > I give out the following "jobs":
>> >
>> > - Website manager:
>> >
>> > Your task is to manage the FreeNX website possibly with a CMS in
>> > background so that changes can be easily done by editors.
>> >
>> > - Docs manager:
>> >
>> > Your task is to write new docs and look into old docs if they are
>> > current. It seems tan is doing that quite well already, but he might
>> > need help.
>> >
>> > It also seems that classic bugtracking via berlios did not work out.
>> >
>> > I also would like to change to git for version control with a
>> > central svn repository as master branch, so we can have several
>> > branches and I can more easily pull from a tree or get Signed-Off
>> > patches that I can easily apply or change.
>> >
>> > So any ideas where we can move, where we have a SVN, a very basic
>> > bugtracking tool for reporting bugs with ML interface and a Wiki?
>> >
>> > Perhaps we could also use a TRAC for HP and Wiki and Bugs and
>> > Tickets and leave the rest at berlios for now, while decreasing the
>> > amount of services used from berlios.
>> >
>> > Is anyone willing to setup something like that for like freenx.org?
>> > (We could point to your IP then ...)
>> >
>> > I think I am at a good stage for managing a stable version that is
>> > changing, but still very stable. Also with RL management of 3 months.
>> >
>> > But the overall other things I would like to hear is what you think
>> > we can do for managing the docs, HP and Wiki part more lively?
>> >
>> I know I've suggested this in the past, but since then nothing has
>> happened to all these issues and in the meantime changes have been made to
>> my proposed hostingplace: launchpad/bazaar from Canonical.
>> I'm no developer myself, but I see many positive sideeffects by moving
>> FreeNX to them - easier colloboration/contribution on translation,
>> documentation, homepage management, bug reporting, etc. IMHO.
>> I, for one, got more positive than before after reading these two
>> pages/links:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/launchpad2-improves-collaboration
>>
>> http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/06/19/version-control-thanks-bitkeeper-welcome-bazaar/
>> Hopefully this suits the developer side as well :-)
>> Regards,
>> Terje
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>     Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
>>    Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
>>  http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
>>         Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
>>                 http://www.nomachine.com/kb/
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>       FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- FreeNX-kNX@kde.org
>>      https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never
>> before. See how Windows(R) fits your life<http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>     Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
>>    Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
>>  http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
>>         Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
>>                 http://www.nomachine.com/kb/
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>       FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- FreeNX-kNX@kde.org
>>      https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
>     Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
>    Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
>  http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
>         Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
>                 http://www.nomachine.com/kb/
>
> ________________________________________________________________
>       FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- FreeNX-kNX@kde.org
>      https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx
> ________________________________________________________________
>

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<div dir="ltr">Thats a great idea Lewis, but then ... Kurt won&#39;t make a penny off \
you and as you have to understand... <br>&quot;this is not a shameless plug&quot;, he \
only wants to make something off a service for which you wish to offer freely to the \
community. <br> Seriously Kurt that was just a pathetic and shameful offering. \
Perhaps you could have mailed him privately and offered it that way. When you send it \
out to the rest of the community you look pretty pathetic.<br><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, lewis schmidt <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lewis.schmidt@gmail.com">lewis.schmidt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>how about they do it \
pro-bono and cap the bandwidth :)</div> <div>IMO, we just need knowledge sharing.. \
not massive downloading of packages and source files.&nbsp;</div> <div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I think an ubuntu-wiki/debian-wiki could solve most of that need.&nbsp; For \
developement etc... how about a tally of how many people would actually be \
involved?&nbsp; I doubt that there would be such a huge need for such expensive \
services..&nbsp; heck, i&#39;d dedicate a cable modem to it if everyone agreed to \
it.&nbsp; cheap.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div><font color="#888888">
<div>L<br><br>&nbsp;</div></font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/2/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kurt Godric</b> \
&lt;<a href="mailto:kgodric@hotmail.com" target="_blank">kgodric@hotmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>I work in a \
datacenter in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and have colo space and dedicated servers if you \
want to build your infrastructure in a great environment.&nbsp; We have all kinds of \
bandwidth available to us and can sell you anything you need.&nbsp; The datacenter \
hangs off of Atlanta&#39;s 10GigE metro fiber ring, and is broken down any way you \
need it.&nbsp; We also offer full monitoring services and server management services \
for just about any DC/Colocation in the world.<br>

<br>Another thing that we have available are full sun cabinets with 2 Cisco \
switchs,IP KVM, 33 Sun Servers, and PDUs all wired and ready to plug and play for \
less than $10,000/rack.&nbsp; Perfect for building high density clusters or for \
dedicated servers.&nbsp; <br>

<br>If you or anyone you know are interested, Please contact me and we can discuss \
this offline.<br><br>By the way, this is not a shameless plug, as I have not given my \
company name, but an offer to assist in bettering this community.&nbsp; Unfortunately \
I cannot afford to give our services for free, but we are very compeditive and can \
work with you to build a solution that best fits your needs.&nbsp; <br>

<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Kurt<br><br>
<hr>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:51 -0400<br>From: <a \
href="mailto:lewis.schmidt@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">lewis.schmidt@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a \
                href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" \
                target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage 
<div><span><br><br>
<div>I&#39;d like to motion that this is taken more seriously.&nbsp; I for one would \
dedicated time to working on any wiki.&nbsp; My preference is \
Deki-Wiki&gt;Media-Wiki.&nbsp; I&#39;m not sure what process is in place to make any \
formal decisions please educate me.</div>


<div>thanks</div>
<div>L<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span>On 8/2/08, <b>Terje Andersen</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:terander@guard.zapto.org" \
target="_blank">terander@guard.zapto.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span>  <blockquote \
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">----- Melding \
fra <a href="mailto:FabianFranz@gmx.de" target="_blank">FabianFranz@gmx.de</a> \
---------<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; Dato: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:49:48 +0200<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; \
&nbsp;Fra: Fabian Franz &lt;<a href="mailto:FabianFranz@gmx.de" \
target="_blank">FabianFranz@gmx.de</a>&gt;<br>Svar-til: User Support for FreeNX \
Server and kNX Client &lt;<a href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" \
target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a>&gt;<br>

&nbsp; &nbsp; Emne: [FreeNX-kNX] Wiki, Docs and Homepage<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Til: \
User Support for FreeNX Server and kNX Client &lt;<a href="mailto:freenx-knx@kde.org" \
target="_blank">freenx-knx@kde.org</a>&gt;<span><br> <br><br>&gt; Hello \
all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I got used to berlios, but as their services seem to degrade \
in&nbsp; <br>&gt; quality (wiki not writable) and our homepage is not current \
anyway,&nbsp; <br>&gt; I give out the following &quot;jobs&quot;:<br>

&gt;<br>&gt; - Website manager:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Your task is to manage the FreeNX \
website possibly with a CMS in&nbsp; <br>&gt; background so that changes can be \
easily done by editors.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - Docs manager:<br>&gt;<br>

&gt; Your task is to write new docs and look into old docs if they are&nbsp; <br>&gt; \
current. It seems tan is doing that quite well already, but he might&nbsp; <br>&gt; \
need help.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; It also seems that classic bugtracking via berlios did not \
work out.<br>

&gt;<br>&gt; I also would like to change to git for version control with a&nbsp; \
<br>&gt; central svn repository as master branch, so we can have several&nbsp; \
<br>&gt; branches and I can more easily pull from a tree or get Signed-Off&nbsp; <br>

&gt; patches that I can easily apply or change.<br>&gt;<br></span><span>&gt; So any \
ideas where we can move, where we have a SVN, a very basic&nbsp; <br>&gt; bugtracking \
tool for reporting bugs with ML interface and a Wiki?<br>

&gt;<br></span><span>&gt; Perhaps we could also use a TRAC for HP and Wiki and Bugs \
and&nbsp; <br>&gt; Tickets and leave the rest at berlios for now, while decreasing \
the&nbsp; <br>&gt; amount of services used from berlios.<br>&gt;<br>

&gt; Is anyone willing to setup something like that for like <a \
href="http://freenx.org/" target="_blank">freenx.org</a>?&nbsp; <br>&gt; (We could \
point to your IP then ...)<br> &gt;<br>&gt; I think I am at a good stage for managing \
a stable version that is&nbsp; <br>&gt; changing, but still very stable. Also with RL \
management of 3 months.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; But the overall other things I would like to \
hear is what you think&nbsp; <br>

&gt; we can do for managing the docs, HP and Wiki part more \
lively?<br>&gt;</span><br>I know I&#39;ve suggested this in the past, but since then \
nothing has happened to all these issues and in the meantime changes have been made \
to my proposed hostingplace: launchpad/bazaar from Canonical.<br>

I&#39;m no developer myself, but I see many positive sideeffects by moving FreeNX to \
them - easier colloboration/contribution on translation, documentation, homepage \
management, bug reporting, etc. IMHO.<br>I, for one, got more positive than before \
after reading these two pages/links:<br>

<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/news/launchpad2-improves-collaboration" \
target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/news/launchpad2-improves-collaboration</a><br><a \
href="http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/06/19/version-control-thanks-bitkeeper-welcome-bazaar/" \
target="_blank">http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/06/19/version-control-thanks-bitkeeper-welcome-bazaar/</a><br>


Hopefully this suits the developer side as well :-)<br>Regards, \
<br>Terje<br><br>________________________________________________________________<br>&nbsp; \
&nbsp; Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;Then \
please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:<br>

&nbsp;<a href="http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ" \
target="_blank">http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ</a><br>&nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don&#39;t forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:<br> &nbsp; \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a \
href="http://www.nomachine.com/kb/" \
target="_blank">http://www.nomachine.com/kb/</a><br><br>________________________________________________________________<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- <a href="mailto:FreeNX-kNX@kde.org" \
target="_blank">FreeNX-kNX@kde.org</a><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx</a><br>

________________________________________________________________<br></blockquote></div><br><br></span></div>
 <hr>
Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. <a \
href="http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/" target="_blank">See how \
Windows&reg; fits your life</a></div> \
<br>________________________________________________________________<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; \
Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;Then please \
write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:<br>&nbsp;<a \
href="http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ" \
target="_blank">http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ</a><br>

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don&#39;t forget to check the NX Knowledge \
Base:<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a \
href="http://www.nomachine.com/kb/" \
target="_blank">http://www.nomachine.com/kb/</a><br> \
<br>________________________________________________________________<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; \
&nbsp; FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- <a href="mailto:FreeNX-kNX@kde.org" \
target="_blank">FreeNX-kNX@kde.org</a><br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx</a><br>________________________________________________________________<br>
 </blockquote></div><br>
</div></div><br>________________________________________________________________<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:<br>
 &nbsp;<a href="http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ" \
target="_blank">http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ</a><br>  \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don&#39;t forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:<br>  \
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a \
href="http://www.nomachine.com/kb/" \
target="_blank">http://www.nomachine.com/kb/</a><br> <br>
________________________________________________________________<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- <a \
href="mailto:FreeNX-kNX@kde.org">FreeNX-kNX@kde.org</a><br>  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx</a><br> \
________________________________________________________________<br></blockquote></div><br></div>




________________________________________________________________
     Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
    Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:
  http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ
         Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
                 http://www.nomachine.com/kb/ 

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