From freenx-knx Fri Dec 14 14:53:51 2007 From: "Marcelo Boveto Shima" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:53:51 +0000 To: freenx-knx Subject: Re: [FreeNX-kNX] FreeNX and Debian Message-Id: <7d3bf3160712140653q6aa3115by1791dee28d3ff8a6 () mail ! gmail ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=freenx-knx&m=119764430720862 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============1489714468==" --===============1489714468== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_892_11176863.1197644031480" ------=_Part_892_11176863.1197644031480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I was trying to port nxlibs to xorg 7.0 some time ago. I have made everything compile successfully. But I got a black screen when connected (seems libx11 problem), I'm not a xorg hacker, so I gave up. The packages I've created: libx11-nx libxrender-nx nxcomp nxcompshad nxproto-input nxproxy nxtrans libxau-nx libxt-nx nxcompext nx-proto-core nxproto-kb nxssh nx-X11 (only nxagent) nxagent is not modular so I compiled it using links to headers and removing everything else from the build script. If anyone is interested I can put the sources somewhere. There are nx packages for feisty in https://edge.launchpad.net/~marceloshima/+archive. It is modular. I use nxlib-dev as build-dep to compile nxcomp, nxcompext and nxcompshat, but libxcomp-dev is build-dep to nxlibs. nxcomp that uses nx-proto-core is not on this repository but I've made it. Hope this can help, Marcelo On Dec 14, 2007 12:14 PM, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: > A Dimecres 12 Desembre 2007 22:36, Tim Freedom va escriure: > > --- Durk Strooisma wrote: > > > > Is there a proper repo that can be used instead of fetching .deb > > > > packages from various potentially soon-disappearing locations ? > > > > Can Jeremy's pacakges, once proven for the mainstream debian > populous > > > > out there, get included on say the FreeNX advertised debian site > > > > (http://packages.debianbase.de) or others ? This is really > important. > > > > > > You can find in the november archive information about my repos with > > > NX-packages for sarge (seems to work on etch as well). These are a bit > > > behind, but still usable; NX 2.1, FreeNX 0.6.0. > > > > And that's what I'm pointing out - various people try, get something > > going and then either abandon it and/or move on (or the links become > > stale). Could we get your files (and Jeremy's and ...) all uploaded > > and maintained (on each release) to a single website/URL/repository ? > > > > > >> About why it didn't make it in the Debian list, look for something > > > >> like "FreeNX rewrite". This year there was a long discussion about > it. > > > > In looking through this I also came across the following, > > > > > > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-nx-group/2007-July/thread.html > > > > but the thread seems dead (no posts since July 07) - have there been > > any resolutions to this (and many other topics I came across - new > > website, new project name, possible collaboration with the 2X team, > > etc, etc). Can all these interesting "future centric" issues be > > noted clearly somewhere to not only lessen confusion but to spur > > contribution, support and innovation (homepage, a wiki page, etc) ? > > > Hi, > > I feel a bit guilty because I tried to help in this issue and finally I > have > done nothing. Sorry Fabian, as always and many people, the time is a non > renewed resource .... > > It's no easy or trivial to have freenx in debian official: there's a > problem > (with solution) with the base code (NX) that implies that freenx fails. > The > nxlibs is a "fork" of the Xfree before and now Xorg and also have some > security issues that have to take care. Think in mind that a maintenable > solution is to have an "official" debian package of nx, not severals > projects > as now. > > One one the solutions that with Fabian we talked was to create a real fork > of > the NX libs , also create a new project, something like "freenx is dead" > we > move to ....... (VLSC?) with the idea to create a NX libs, which are based > the project is some kind of wrapped code to the Xorg in the way that it > will > be possible to have a "official" debian package in a future. > > I said to Fabian that I will try to help in this, and I finally have done > nothing (sorry....) so, the things are more or less in this situation.... > > Best regards, > > Leo > > ________________________________________________________________ > Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem? > Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ: > http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ > Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base: > http://www.nomachine.com/kb/ > > ________________________________________________________________ > FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- FreeNX-kNX@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx > ________________________________________________________________ > ------=_Part_892_11176863.1197644031480 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I was trying to port nxlibs to xorg 7.0 some time ago. I have made everything compile successfully. But I got a black screen when connected (seems libx11 problem), I'm not a xorg hacker, so I gave up.
The packages I've created:
libx11-nx
libxrender-nx
nxcomp
nxcompshad
nxproto-input
nxproxy
nxtrans
libxau-nx
libxt-nx
nxcompext
nx-proto-core
nxproto-kb
nxssh
nx-X11 (only nxagent)


nxagent is not modular so I compiled it using links to headers and removing everything else from the build script.

If anyone is interested I can put the sources somewhere.

There are nx packages for feisty in https://edge.launchpad.net/~marceloshima/+archive . It is modular. I use nxlib-dev as build-dep to compile nxcomp, nxcompext and nxcompshat, but libxcomp-dev is build-dep to nxlibs. nxcomp that uses nx-proto-core is not on this repository but I've made it.

Hope this can help,
Marcelo

On Dec 14, 2007 12:14 PM, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <lepalom@wol.es> wrote:
A Dimecres 12 Desembre 2007 22:36, Tim Freedom va escriure:
> --- Durk Strooisma <durk@kern.nl> wrote:
> > > Is there a proper repo that can be used instead of fetching .deb
> > > packages from various potentially soon-disappearing locations ?
> > > Can Jeremy's pacakges, once proven for the mainstream debian populous
> > > out there, get included on say the FreeNX advertised debian site
> > > (http://packages.debianbase.de) or others ?  This is really important.
> >
> > You can find in the november archive information about my repos with
> > NX-packages for sarge (seems to work on etch as well). These are a bit
> > behind, but still usable; NX 2.1, FreeNX 0.6.0.
>
> And that's what I'm pointing out - various people try, get something
> going and then either abandon it and/or move on (or the links become
> stale).  Could we get your files (and Jeremy's and ...) all uploaded
> and maintained (on each release) to a single website/URL/repository ?
>
> > >> About why it didn't make it in the Debian list, look for something
> > >> like "FreeNX rewrite". This year there was a long discussion about it.
>
> In looking through this I also came across the following,
>
>
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-nx-group/2007-July/thread.html
>
> but the thread seems dead (no posts since July 07) - have there been
> any resolutions to this (and many other topics I came across - new
> website, new project name, possible collaboration with the 2X team,
> etc, etc).  Can all these interesting "future centric" issues be
> noted clearly somewhere to not only lessen confusion but to spur
> contribution, support and innovation (homepage, a wiki page, etc) ?
>
Hi,

I feel a bit guilty because I tried to help in this issue and finally I have
done nothing. Sorry Fabian, as always and many people, the time is a non
renewed resource ....

It's no easy or trivial to have freenx in debian official: there's a problem
(with solution) with the base code (NX) that implies that freenx fails. The
nxlibs is a "fork" of the  Xfree before and now Xorg and also have some
security issues that have to take care. Think in mind that a maintenable
solution is to have an "official" debian package of nx, not severals projects
as now.

One one the solutions that with Fabian we talked was to create a real fork of
the NX libs , also create a new project, something like "freenx is dead" we
move to ....... (VLSC?) with the idea to create a NX libs, which are based
the project is some kind of wrapped code to the Xorg in the way that it will
be possible to have a "official" debian package in a future.

I said to Fabian that I will try to help in this, and I finally have done
nothing (sorry....) so, the things are more or less in this situation....

Best regards,

Leo

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