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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this weekend
From: Šimon Dobeš <simondobes007 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2021-02-08 6:22:56
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That presentation is really great! :-)
Simon
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Od: "Jim Hall" <jhall@freedos.org>
Komu: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."
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Odoslané: 4. 2. 2021 23:13:11
Predmet: Re: [Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this weekend
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>
>On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:44 PM Jim Hall <jhall@freedos.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:21 PM tom ehlert <te@drivesnapshot.de> wrote:
>>> > (and a future "2.0" someday).
>>>
>>>I am a bit surprised by this. any news that we all are not aware of?
>>>
>>
>>
>>Same as I've said before in the email lists, and elsewhere:
>>
>>I want to get "1.3" finally wrapped up, and I'd like to have a "2.0"
>>someday. The NightDOS folks are working on their updated kernel - if
>>they can get it working and still runs all 16-bit DOS applications,
>>then we could include that as an alternative kernel for people who (a)
>>have a more modern system, and (b) opt-in to use it.**
>>
>>And there are other "like to have" things that would be great to have
>>in a FreeDOS "2.0" like an alternative DOS command.com shell. I
>>described that here long ago, and on the blog - would love to have an
>>expanded command.com that uses a BASIC-like syntax but still maintains
>>compatibility with DOS BAT files. At the time, you pointed out that
>>Windows command.com did something similar to what I proposed - but I
>>don't use Windows so I wasn't aware of that.
>>
>>And "2.0" still needs to be "DOS" so needs to support all 16-bit DOS
>>applications. And I would want FreeDOS to remain a command-line
>>operating system.
>>
>>
>>So, no surprises to anyone on this list.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>** But, NightDOS is a long way from being able to do that. The goals
>>of NightDOS are pretty lofty, so they have a lot of work here. I think
>>it will be a while before we see that.
>
>
>
>My presentation is pre-recorded, and I've uploaded a copy to the
>FreeDOS YouTube channel (will go "live" after my presentation on
>Sunday).
>
>Here's the video: https://youtu.be/uP77xJA8-4k
>
>
>* 0 to 12 min : my history + some DOS history
>* 12 min to 27 min : FreeDOS up until "now"
>* 27 min to 41 min : FreeDOS 1.3
>* 41 min to end : FreeDOS "2.0" wish list
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:-)</div><div>Simon</div> <div><br /></div>
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<div>Od: "Jim Hall" <<a \
href="mailto:jhall@freedos.org">jhall@freedos.org</a>></div> <div>Komu: \
"Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." <<a \
href="mailto:freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net">freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net</a>></div>
<div>Odoslané: 4. 2. 2021 23:13:11</div>
<div>Predmet: Re: [Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this \
weekend</div><div><br /></div> <div id="x8c8f5695c9644f0"><blockquote \
cite="CAHvaD3ZOrXmQvs5+nip0NR9qsNEmt-1UknFowfyr_c2cYGzTHQ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" \
class="cite2"> <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div></div><br /><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:44 PM \
Jim Hall <<a href="mailto:jhall@freedos.org">jhall@freedos.org</a>> wrote:<br \
/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div \
dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div></div><br \
/><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at \
3:21 PM tom ehlert <<a \
href="mailto:te@drivesnapshot.de">te@drivesnapshot.de</a>> wrote:<br \
/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> (and a future \
"2.0" someday).<br /> <br />
I am a bit surprised by this. any news that we all are not aware of?<br />
<br /></blockquote><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Same as I've said before in the email \
lists, and elsewhere:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br \
/></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I want to get "1.3" \
finally wrapped up, and I'd like to have a "2.0" someday. The NightDOS folks are \
working on their updated kernel - if they can get it working <u>and</u> still runs \
all 16-bit DOS applications, then we could include that as an alternative kernel \
for people who (a) have a more modern system, and (b) opt-in to use it.**</div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And there are other "like to have" \
things that would be great to have in a FreeDOS "2.0" like an alternative DOS <a \
href="http://command.com">command.com</a> shell. I described that here long ago, and \
on the blog - would love to have an expanded <a \
href="http://command.com">command.com</a> that uses a BASIC-like syntax but still \
maintains compatibility with DOS BAT files. At the time, you pointed out that Windows \
<a href="http://command.com">command.com</a> did something similar to what I proposed \
- but I don't use Windows so I wasn't aware of that.</div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And "2.0" still needs to be "DOS" so \
needs to support all 16-bit DOS applications. And I would want FreeDOS to remain a \
command-line operating system.</div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So, no surprises to anyone on this \
list.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Jim<br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div>** But, NightDOS is a long way \
from being able to do that. The goals of NightDOS are pretty lofty, so they have a \
lot of work here. I think it will be a while before we see \
that.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br \
/></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">My \
presentation is pre-recorded, and I've uploaded a copy to the FreeDOS YouTube channel \
(will go "live" after my presentation on Sunday).</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Here's the video: <a \
href="https://youtu.be/uP77xJA8-4k">https://youtu.be/uP77xJA8-4k</a></div><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">* 0 to 12 min : \
my history + some DOS history</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">* 12 min to 27 min : FreeDOS up until \
"now"</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">* 27 min to 41 min : FreeDOS \
1.3</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">* \
41 min to end : FreeDOS "2.0" wish list</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br /></div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div></div></div> </blockquote></div>
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