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Subject:    Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting
From:       Sam Varshavchik <sam.varshavchik () gmail ! com>
Date:       2020-07-31 23:16:14
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:37 PM Adam Jackson <ajax@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> (accidentally sent to just sam initially, whoops)

Yes, and just had a two minute look at it -- this just seems to
disable pasting of the PRIMARY selection, completely.

I suppose that's one way to disable the middle mouse click. As well as
the "Paste" option from most applications' "Edit" menu, and/or the
equivalent keyboard combination.

I suppose that this is one way to fix the problem.




>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:22 AM Sam Varshavchik
> <sam.varshavchik@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:30 AM Böszörményi Zoltán <zboszor@pr.hu> wrote:
> > > 2020. 07. 30. 21:20 keltezéssel, Dennis Clarke írta:
> > > > On 7/30/20 6:39 PM, Elie Goldman Smith wrote:
> > > >> Countless people on forums ...
> > > >
> > > > Also they are not the source code nor would I rely on what countless
> > > > people say on just about any matter whatsoever.  I am not sure when
> > > > the horrific "popular is correct" logic became almost defacto pure
> > > > truth but I reject it.  I am certain I am not alone but I also do not
> > > > have a mathematical proof handy to refute the "popular is correct"
> > > > notion.  At least not yet.
> > >
> > > Let me suggest an analogue / convergent notion, which is also popular
> > > among engineers: "ten billion flies can't be wrong. let's eat sh*t"
> > > I am not sure this refutes the "popular is correct" logic but it
> > > certainly puts things into perspective.
> >
> > That's somewhat besides the point. The point is that the server has
> > absolutely no control over this functionality. Anyone who actually
> > knows and understands X11 (and not some uncounted number of people in
> > some mysterious forums) will know that.
> >
> > If someone believes otherwise, they are free to download the source to
> > the Xorg server, make whatever the change they believe will adjust
> > that behavior, and prove everyone else wrong.
>
> Fine, I'm feeling contrarian:
>
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/snippets/1127
>
> The server _absolutely_ has control over this. The value of the
> PRIMARY property, from the requesting client's perspective, is
> whatever the server says it is. There's no reason the server needs to
> tell you the truth. I'm pretty sure you could craft selinux policy to
> do this and not even need to patch your server.
>
> The point is: opinions about this are not universal. PRIMARY's
> behaviour is so thoroughly baked into both client software and a
> non-trivial subset of user expectation that anyone saying "obviously
> it should be turned off" is projecting. Likewise anyone who cut their
> teeth on a sun3 and thinks UI design was perfected with the Athena
> widget set is intentionally ignoring the absolutely massive
> popularization of access to computing since 1992.
>
> Nobody needs a manifesto about this. If you want to improve the world
> here the quantity of code needed is really quite small. I would like
> to think the xorg developers are friendly and approachable enough that
> people would feel comfortable asking how to make these kinds of
> changes and where to start hacking. We've done tremendous amounts of
> work over the last 15-odd years to eliminate the irrelevant code and
> make what's left pleasant to work on. Please don't make me feel like
> that's been wasted effort.
>
> - ajax
>
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