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Subject: Re: display/GFX issue with Ubuntu 16.04 not seen in 14.04
From: James Abernathy <jfabernathy () outlook ! com>
Date: 2016-08-26 15:42:55
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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Jim Abernathy <jfabernathy@outlook.com> wrote:
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> On 08/24/2016 07:16 AM, Jim Abernathy wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 08/23/2016 10:33 AM, Christopher Barry wrote:
> > > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:53:13 -0400
> > > Jim Abernathy <jfabernathy@outlook.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 08/19/2016 10:17 AM, Jim Abernathy wrote:
> > > > > Not having much luck with the Distro forums on this issue so I
> > > > > thought I'd ask for advice here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been running Ubuntu 14.04.5 for some time on Intel Core i5 GFX
> > > > > without any issues. My display is HDMI from the PC to an Onkyo A/V
> > > > > receiver then to a Sony KDL-XBR6.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I try a fresh install of 16.04.1, I get a display that blanks
> > > > > out for 3-5 seconds at random times depending on what is being
> > > > > displayed at the time. I also have small abouts of video noise that
> > > > > is random horizontal lines about 1 pixel tall scattered through the
> > > > > page.
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that 14.04.05 uses X server 1.17.2 and 16.04.1 uses 1.18.3.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I do the command xrandr --verbose I see some small differences
> > > > > between 14.04 and 16.04, but it's things like 2 digits displayed
> > > > > instead of 1. i.e. 60.0 vs. 60.00. I'm only concerned with 1080P HD.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried this on different computers all with Intel GFX. same
> > > > > results.
> > > > >
> > > > > This does not occur on other monitors or TVs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd blame it on Sony and Onkyo if they didn't work so well with
> > > > > Windows, all versions, and ubuntu all versions except 16.04.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's almost like the auto detection software in the newest version
> > > > > of X is off just enough to make my display flaky. Kind of like the
> > > > > old analog CRT TVs that were sensitive to small tweaks to the
> > > > > horizontal and vertical adjustments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim A
> > > > Can someone let me know where I can ask questions regarding problems
> > > > with X?? I thought this forum would be the place?
> > > >
> > > > Jim A
> > > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > From the data above, I do not think it's possible to troubleshoot very
> > > effectively. It also seems like (to me anyway) that you have a fairly
> > > non-standard kind of configuration going on.
> > >
> > > If I understand it, you have a media-center type PC with an integrated
> > > Intel graphics card on an core i5 processor. Using an HDMI cable, you're
> > > plugging into an Onkyo A/V receiver (you do not mention the model),
> > > which in turn connects to a Sony KDL-XBR6 LCD TV.
> > >
> > > What happens when you connect your PC to a the Sony directly or to
> > > a normal PC LCD monitor? Does that work?
> > >
> > > Are you using an xorg configuration file, or are you allowing automatic
> > > setup via kernel mode switching? If you a have config file(s), what
> > > happens when you move them out of the way temporarily and allow
> > > automatic config?
> > I'm using automatic setup on install. I played with the concept of creating an \
> > xorg.conf file. It's not as easy as it used to be. I tried without success to \
> > create an entry with a modeline statement but it messed things up so I abandoned \
> > that path of debug.
> > > What's in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
> > I'll post the Xorg log later when I'm back at that PC. I looked at it to confirm \
> > no errors and which xorg configuration file it was using. I'll post one from my \
> > test system that has nothing but 16.04 installed plus current updates.
>
> After the previous test I did and posted the log and dmesg I got an update from \
> Ubuntu for the xserver intel driver. After installing and rebooting, I find that \
> while I still have some problems, they are reduced. I can go for 5-10 minutes \
> before a blank screen and the horizontal line noise is reduced but not gone.
The log for the apt upgrade is as follows:
Start-Date: 2016-08-26 07:17:58
Commandline: apt upgrade
Requested-By: jim (1000)
Install: snap-confine:amd64 (1.0.38-0ubuntu0.16.04.8, automatic)
Upgrade: libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2),
eog:amd64 (3.18.2-1ubuntu2, 3.18.2-1ubuntu2.1),
libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64 (1.0.1-1build2, 1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1),
libdfu1:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3),
libdrm-amdgpu1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2),
[COLOR="Red"]xserver-xorg-video-intel:amd64 (2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1, \
2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1.1)[/COLOR], ubuntu-core-launcher:amd64 (1.0.27.1, \
1.0.38-0ubuntu0.16.04.8), libdrm2:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, \
2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), libfwupd1:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3),
fwupd:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3),
libidn11:amd64 (1.32-3ubuntu1, 1.32-3ubuntu1.1),
[COLOR="red"]libdrm-intel1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), \
[/COLOR] libdrm-radeon1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2),
libharfbuzz0b:amd64 (1.0.1-1build2, 1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1)
End-Date: 2016-08-26 07:18:03
> Jim A
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> > > People here help quite readily if they have data to act upon.
> > >
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type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Jim Abernathy <<a \
href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>> \
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display: inline !important;" class="">On 08/24/2016 07:16 AM, Jim Abernathy \
wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; \
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0px;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 08/23/2016 10:33 AM, Christopher Barry \
wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:53:13 \
-0400<br class="">Jim Abernathy <<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" \
class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote \
type="cite" class="">On 08/19/2016 10:17 AM, Jim Abernathy wrote:<br \
class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Not having much luck with the Distro forums \
on this issue so I<br class="">thought I'd ask for advice here.<br class=""><br \
class="">I've been running Ubuntu 14.04.5 for some time on Intel Core i5 GFX<br \
class="">without any issues. My display is HDMI from the PC to an Onkyo A/V<br \
class="">receiver then to a Sony KDL-XBR6.<br class=""><br class="">When I try a \
fresh install of 16.04.1, I get a display that blanks<br class="">out for 3-5 seconds \
at random times depending on what is being<br class="">displayed at the time. I \
also have small abouts of video noise that<br class="">is random horizontal lines \
about 1 pixel tall scattered through the<br class="">page.<br class=""><br class="">I \
noticed that 14.04.05 uses X server 1.17.2 and 16.04.1 uses 1.18.3.<br class=""><br \
class="">When I do the command xrandr --verbose I see some small differences<br \
class="">between 14.04 and 16.04, but it's things like 2 digits displayed<br \
class="">instead of 1. i.e. 60.0 vs. 60.00. I'm only concerned with 1080P \
HD.<br class=""><br class="">I've tried this on different computers all with Intel \
GFX. same<br class="">results.<br class=""><br class="">This does not occur on other \
monitors or TVs.<br class=""><br class="">I'd blame it on Sony and Onkyo if they \
didn't work so well with<br class="">Windows, all versions, and ubuntu all versions \
except 16.04.<br class=""><br class="">It's almost like the auto detection software \
in the newest version<br class="">of X is off just enough to make my display flaky. \
Kind of like the<br class="">old analog CRT TVs that were sensitive to small \
tweaks to the<br class="">horizontal and vertical adjustments.<br class=""><br \
class="">Any help would be appreciated.<br class=""><br class="">Jim A<br \
class=""></blockquote>Can someone let me know where I can ask questions regarding \
problems<br class="">with X?? I thought this forum would be the place?<br \
class=""><br class="">Jim A<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>Jim,<br \
class=""><br class="">From the data above, I do not think it's possible to \
troubleshoot very<br class="">effectively. It also seems like (to me anyway) that you \
have a fairly<br class="">non-standard kind of configuration going on.<br \
class=""><br class="">If I understand it, you have a media-center type PC with an \
integrated<br class="">Intel graphics card on an core i5 processor. Using an HDMI \
cable, you're<br class="">plugging into an Onkyo A/V receiver (you do not mention the \
model),<br class="">which in turn connects to a Sony KDL-XBR6 LCD TV.<br class=""><br \
class="">What happens when you connect your PC to a the Sony directly or to<br \
class="">a normal PC LCD monitor? Does that work?<br class=""><br class="">Are you \
using an xorg configuration file, or are you allowing automatic<br class="">setup via \
kernel mode switching? If you a have config file(s), what<br class="">happens when \
you move them out of the way temporarily and allow<br class="">automatic config?<br \
class=""></blockquote>I'm using automatic setup on install. I played with the concept \
of creating an xorg.conf file. It's not as easy as it used to be. I tried \
without success to create an entry with a modeline statement but it messed things up \
so I abandoned that path of debug.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" \
class="">What's in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?<br class=""></blockquote>I'll post the \
Xorg log later when I'm back at that PC. I looked at it to confirm no errors \
and which xorg configuration file it was using. I'll post one from my test \
system that has nothing but 16.04 installed plus current updates.<br \
class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: \
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; \
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: \
0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: \
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; \
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">After the previous test I did and \
posted the log and dmesg I got an update from Ubuntu for the xserver intel driver. \
After installing and rebooting, I find that while I still have some problems, they \
are reduced. I can go for 5-10 minutes before a blank screen and the horizontal \
line noise is reduced but not gone.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; \
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; \
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div>The log for the apt \
upgrade is as follows:</div><div><div><br class=""></div><div>Start-Date: 2016-08-26 \
07:17:58</div><div>Commandline: apt upgrade</div><div>Requested-By: jim \
(1000)</div><div>Install: snap-confine:amd64 (1.0.38-0ubuntu0.16.04.8, \
automatic)</div><div>Upgrade: libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, \
2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>eog:amd64 (3.18.2-1ubuntu2, \
3.18.2-1ubuntu2.1), </div><div>libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64 (1.0.1-1build2, \
1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1), </div><div>libdfu1:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, \
0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3), </div><div>libdrm-amdgpu1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, \
2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>[COLOR="Red"]xserver-xorg-video-intel:amd64 \
(2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1, \
2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1.1)[/COLOR], </div><div>ubuntu-core-launcher:amd64 \
(1.0.27.1, 1.0.38-0ubuntu0.16.04.8), </div><div>libdrm2:amd64 \
(2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>libfwupd1:amd64 \
(0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3), </div><div>fwupd:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, \
0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3), </div><div>libidn11:amd64 (1.32-3ubuntu1, \
1.32-3ubuntu1.1), </div><div>[COLOR="red"]libdrm-intel1:amd64 \
(2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), \
[/COLOR]</div><div>libdrm-radeon1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, \
2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>libharfbuzz0b:amd64 (1.0.1-1build2, \
1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1)</div><div>End-Date: 2016-08-26 07:18:03</div></div><br \
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class=""><br class="">People here help quite readily if they have data to act \
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class="">Regards,<br class="">Christopher Barry<br \
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