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Subject: Re: New Monitor Weirdnesses or how do I get Xorg to pay attention to my xorg.conf file?
From: Robert Heller <heller () deepsoft ! com>
Date: 2015-12-05 2:06:13
Message-ID: 201512050206.tB526Dea027275 () sharky2 ! deepsoft ! com
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At Fri, 4 Dec 2015 15:11:33 -0500 xorg@lists.x.org wrote:
>
> I am just using the KVM included in CentOS7 with Cloudstack.
> Not sure what I am missing by not including Xen but I am pretty new at it.
CentOS 5 predates KVM and used Xen for virtualization. CentOS 6 and 7 include
KVM for virtualization and don't use a Xen hypervisor. You are not 'missing'
anything: Xen is just the older virtualization hypervisor.
>
> I can not help but believe that CentOS 7 would be a better platform for
> virtualization than CentOS 5.
>
> CentOS 7 is not too bad but it is different and it has taken me a while
> to stop fighting it.
I don't want to take that step until I have learned to deal with the likes of
systemd, etc. I install CentOS 6 as the host and install CentOS 7 in a VM, to
have a standbox to learn in, and still be able to get work done.
> The changes to networking and the firewall were hard to absorb. The new
> way to manage processes is still a bit of a challenge for me but I am
> not spending any time on this since it works just fine.
>
> I run a software firewall, DNS server and virtual router which I moved
> from CentOS 4 to CentOS 7 and it seems to work better but it is hard to
> tell if it is the newer hardware or the new OS. This is a critical part
> of the infrastructure and I am happy with the change.
> The hardware was too old to run the nouveau driver properly so I am
> running the NVIDIA legacy driver. Works but I am not using it as a
> workstation.
>
>
> Ron
>
> On 04/12/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:42:18 -0500 xorg@lists.x.org wrote:
> >
> > > If you ready for some fun, CentOS 7 is out and into its third revision.
> > >
> > > Did I miss the discussion about the drivers from NVIDIA? I am using them
> > > with new and old hardware(different machines).
> > > A bit tricky to get working and there are different drivers for legacy
> > > cards and newer cards.
> > The drivers from NVIDIA are not supported for Xen-based systems. I am using
> > Xen for virtualization, so the drivers from NVIDIA are not an option.
> > Appearently the kernel and Xorg that sh
> >
> > > I had trouble with the nouveau driver but it may have been me or may
> > > have been an early version.
> > The nouveau driver is not available for CentOS 5 -- the kernel and Xorg
> > libraries are too old.
> >
> > > CentOS 7 runs well but it does have a lot of changes to the tools that
> > > one got used to in CentOS 5 and 6.
> > *I* am not ready for that big a change. It would probably be too disruptive
> > for my work flow. I *may* install CentOS 7 as a VM at some point.
> >
> > > It is supposed to be a better workstation OS.
> > >
> > > I am still running 5 and 6 on some production machines.
> > > I am not using my units as workstations but like to have the GUI working
> > > well in case I have some maintenance activities that are easier in the GUI.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > On 04/12/2015 10:30 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > > > At Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:32:59 +1000 Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 4 December 2015 at 12:27, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > > At Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:27:22 -0500 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> \
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Robert Heller composed on 2015-12-03 16:00 (UTC-0500):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I use a distro with long term support.
> > > > > > > Not without a price. What you have is hardware technology that is more
> > > > > > > advanced than the foundation on which that support is built. A GeForce \
> > > > > > > 8200 needs either the FOSS nouveau driver, which seems to be missing \
> > > > > > > from CentOS 5, or the proprietary NVidia driver. VESA is a low \
> > > > > > > technology fallback driver wholly incapable of properly supporting \
> > > > > > > widescreen displays. AFAICT, there's no amount of xorg.conf or xrandr \
> > > > > > > twiddling you can do to overcome the shortcomings of a fallback driver.
> > > > > > The video chipset has been working fine with the CentOS software, with a \
> > > > > > 4:3 monitor. The (available) proprietary NVidia driver won't work with a \
> > > > > > Xen kernel.
> > > > > The graphics card BIOS contains the modes that vesa can use. It doesn't \
> > > > > have widescreen modes in it. The below 3 choices are yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > CentOS6 should drive things better in theory.
> > > > I guess I will have to upgade to CentOS 6...
> > > >
> > > > > Dave.
> > > > > > > > *I* have better things to do than
> > > > > > > > spend all of my time dealing with incompatible updates every few \
> > > > > > > > months.
> > > > > > > You have 3 choices that I can see:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1-upgrade software to the technology level of your hardware (nouveau \
> > > > > > > driver, likely requiring KMS kernel)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2-backlevel your video hardware (either supported gfxcard, or supported \
> > > > > > > 4:3 or 5:4 aspect display)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3-suffer a standard aspect video mode on your widescreen display
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933
> > > > > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services
> > > > > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services
> > > > > > heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
> > > > > >
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Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933
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