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List:       freedesktop-xorg
Subject:    Re: Xgl/Xegl future?
From:       Nicola Squartini <tensor5 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2005-08-22 12:32:13
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On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 12:36 +0200, Matthias Hopf wrote:

> On Aug 19, 05 11:55:25 +0200, Christian Parpart wrote:
> > well, within X11, as an end-user, I'd like to know what exactly the future of 
> > Xgl/Xegl is?
> > 
> > After having read the "Stopping work on EGL and Xgl" by Jon Smirl on exactly 
> > my birthday's day, I must say I am really confused.
> 
> David is still busy working on Xgl. Jon was mostly contributing a large
> part to Xegl, the stand-alone version of Xgl.
> 
> I'm sad he left, but development will continue. There are still so many
> rough edges and unfinished buisness in Xgl itself, that work naturally
> concentrates on this stuff.
> 
> > However, are there others that are contributing to it? Is there even *any* 
> > future of getting OpenGL-backed X11 some day?
> 
> I assume so :)
> I wouldn't work on it otherwise.
> 
> There is one more thing going on that *really* makes me nervous:
> M$ trying to push out OpenGL from Windows:
> 
> http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/cgi_directory/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000001
> 


That makes even more important to have a big project, like Xgl, based on
OpenGL. This way video card vendors will understand that maintaining
OpenGL on their cards is useful to Linux not just to run 3D
screensavers.

> CU
> 
> Matthias
> 

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On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 12:36 +0200, Matthias Hopf wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Aug 19, 05 11:55:25 +0200, Christian Parpart wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; well, within X11, as an end-user, I'd like to know what \
exactly the future of </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Xgl/Xegl is?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; After having read the &quot;Stopping work on EGL and \
Xgl&quot; by Jon Smirl on exactly </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; my birthday's \
day, I must say I am really confused.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">David is still busy working on Xgl. Jon was mostly contributing \
a large</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">part to Xegl, the stand-alone version of \
Xgl.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I'm sad he left, but development will continue. There are still \
so many</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">rough edges and unfinished buisness in Xgl \
itself, that work naturally</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">concentrates on this \
stuff.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; However, are there others that are contributing to it? Is \
there even *any* </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; future of getting OpenGL-backed \
X11 some day?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I assume so :)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I wouldn't work on it otherwise.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">There is one more thing going on that *really* makes me \
nervous:</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">M$ trying to push out OpenGL from \
Windows:</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A \
HREF="http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/cgi_directory/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_top \
ic;f=12;t=000001">http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/cgi_directory/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000001</A></FONT>


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That makes even more important to have a big project, like Xgl, based on OpenGL. This \
way video card vendors will understand that maintaining OpenGL on their cards is \
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">CU</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Matthias</FONT>

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