From freedesktop-xdg Thu Jan 13 17:19:52 2005 From: Olivier Goffart Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:19:52 +0000 To: freedesktop-xdg Subject: Re: Emoticon theme specification Version 0.1 Message-Id: <200501131819.53212.ogoffart () tiscalinet ! be> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=freedesktop-xdg&m=117278169709373 (i'm sorry if you get this mail twice, it seems my first mail has not ben=20 sent) Le Mardi 11 Janvier 2005 13:26, Jakub Steiner a =E9crit=A0: > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 16:52 +0100, Olivier Goffart wrote: > > Le Lundi 10 Janvier 2005 02:52, Frans Englich a =E9crit : > > Anyway, i still think emoticon should be provided alone. > > The idea is that it's important to share the same emoticons theme betwe= en > > different person so they can see both two the same emoticons. > > > > So for instance in Kopete, we already thought about setting different > > emoticon themes per protocol, or even per contacts.) > > I don't agree that the two people chatting have to see the same emoticon > graphic. The same metaphor needs to be preserved in all themes, yes. But > in an IM conversation, the parties aren't required to have the same > font, so I don't see a reason to force one into sharing the same > aesthetic sense with emoticons either. I think it's more important to > keep the particular desktop visually consistent. That's ok if the emoticon theme is limited to basic emoticons like :-) or := =2D( But when we have emoticons like msn ones which itself mean nothing (l) a heart (bah) a sheep , and more. In that case, not having the same emoticons may be a problem. > Seeing multiple emoticon themes in gaim depending on the protocol made > me think of it as immature similarly as looking at XP having 30% of its > icons from the 95 era. > > Also in MSN Messenger, the user is allowed to use different emoticons, > > and theses emoticons are even transmitted to the other side. > > We planed to export the emoticon theme as well. > > As I described above, I think that's a bad plan. But it's a feature. In Kopete, that's optional. Even if personally i do not care so much, it's a feature that teenagers lik= e a=20 lot. I have to admit that custom emoticons add some Fun into MSN chat.