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List:       freedesktop-xdg
Subject:    [perhaps OT and already discussed] usability
From:       Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu () realss ! com>
Date:       2004-10-13 1:59:34
Message-ID: 416C8C06.4080407 () realss ! com
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Hello. I happen to see this comment and table from scribus mailing list. 
I wonder isn't there a good usability standard or recommendation 
released from standard group like freedesktop, rather than from one or 
two single persons about one or two single usability problems? Sorry for 
wrong post, perhaps I am OT becuase this group is for standard creation 
not ideas?

Manfred Jung wrote:

>Hi Everyone
>
>With my last publication I was under considerable time preasure and realized that one 
>point always held me up. perhaps it would not have shown up otherwise. But I found it 
>very confusing that the different DTP related programs call and place the butons 
>differetly. In one case I almost lost my work. Well this trigered my little usability study. 
>Others are probably much more clued up, but perhaps my lines strike a cord and it 
>doesw good to all of us. 
>  
>


Program

	

Order from right to left (default in bold)

	

Comments

OpenOffice

	

*Save,* Discard, Cancel

	

when closing a document

Sodipodi

	

No, Cancel, *Save *

	

when closing a document

Inkscape

	

Close without saving, Cancel, *Save*

	

when closing a document

The Gimp

	

Cancel, *Discard Changes*

	

when closing a document

KIconEdit

	

*Yes*, No, Cancel

	

when closing a document

Scribus

	

*Save now*, Cancel, Close Anyway

	

when closing a document

Scribus

	

*No, *Yes

	

when save as on an existing doc name

Evolution

	

Discard changes, Cancel, *Save*

	

when closing a new mail

Firefox

	

Cancel, *Close all tabs*

	

when closing firefox with open tabs


	


	


 From the windoze world

	


	


CorelDraw

	

*Yes, *No, Cancel

	

when closing a document

Quark

	

*Yes,* No, Cancel

	

when closing a document

Word

	

*Yes,* No Cancel

	

(actually it came up with a run time error and crashed first time round, 
surprise surprise...) when closing a document



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Hello. I happen to see this comment and table from scribus mailing
list. I wonder isn't there a good usability standard or recommendation
released from standard group like freedesktop, rather than from one or
two single persons about one or two single usability problems? Sorry
for wrong post, perhaps I am OT becuase this group is for standard
creation not ideas?<br>
<br>
Manfred Jung wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid416C0C83.16825.6739EA7@localhost" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">Hi Everyone

With my last publication I was under considerable time preasure and realized that one 
point always held me up. perhaps it would not have shown up otherwise. But I found it 
very confusing that the different DTP related programs call and place the butons 
differetly. In one case I almost lost my work. Well this trigered my little usability study. 
Others are probably much more clued up, but perhaps my lines strike a cord and it 
doesw good to all of us. 
  </pre>
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