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Subject: Re: dbus: Proposed relicense to MIT/X11
From: "Christian Hammond" <chipx86 () chipx86 ! com>
Date: 2007-09-14 22:55:34
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I oppose!
No, kidding. This sounds like a good move to me.
Christian
On 9/13/07, Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca> wrote:
>
> [This email has been sent to the dbus mailing list and to everyone who
> has ever contributed to dbus. This e-mail is a first pass; a second
> email will probably be sent after I discover working email addresses for
> the bounces I get from this email.]
>
> You are receiving this email because you have, in some way, contributed
> to dbus.
>
> dbus is currently made available under the union of The Academic Free
> License version 2.1 and the GNU General Public License version 2.
>
> This combination of licences prevents some free software applications
> from legally using dbus. A very simple example is GPLv3 applications
> (GPL versions 2 and 3 are incompatible). There are other examples as
> well.
>
> There was a meeting of dbus developers at GUADEC and it was agreed by
> all present that it would be best to move dbus to a MIT/X11 style
> licence.
>
> The AFL 2.1 (under which dbus is currently available) is almost the same
> as the X11 licence except for the patent clause in the AFL. The patent
> clause is thought to be so weak as to be nearly ineffective. The clause
> causes confusion, though, and more importantly, introduces GPL
> incompatibility.
>
> The text of the proposed new licence (MIT/X11) is as follows:
>
> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person
> obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation
> files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without
> restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy,
> modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies
> of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
> furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
>
> The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
> included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
>
> THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
> EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
> MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND
> NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT
> HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
> WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
> OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER
> DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.
>
> Of course, in order to complete the relicense, we need the approval of
> all contributors to the affected code.
>
> Please "reply to all" to this email (ie: sending replies to
> <desrt@desrt.ca> and <dbus@lists.freedesktop.org>) indicating your
> willingness or unwillingness to have your contributions to dbus
> relicensed under the above terms.
>
> Even if you believe your contributions to be trivial, please reply.
>
> If you have no idea what this email is about, then I apologise, but
> still ask that you please contact me directly (Ryan Lortie
> <desrt@desrt.ca>).
>
> Cheers
>
>
--
Christian Hammond - chipx86@chipx86.com
VMware, Inc.
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I oppose!<br><br>No, kidding. This sounds like a good move to \
me.<br><br>Christian<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/13/07, <b \
class="gmail_sendername">Ryan Lortie</b> <<a \
href="mailto:desrt@desrt.ca">desrt@desrt.ca </a>> wrote:</span><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">[This email has been sent to the dbus mailing list and \
to everyone who <br>has ever contributed to dbus. This e-mail is a first \
pass; a second<br>email will probably be sent after I discover working email \
addresses for<br>the bounces I get from this email.]<br><br>You are receiving this \
email because you have, in some way, contributed <br>to dbus.<br><br>dbus is \
currently made available under the union of The Academic Free<br>License version 2.1 \
and the GNU General Public License version 2.<br><br>This combination of licences \
prevents some free software applications <br>from legally using dbus. A \
very simple example is GPLv3 applications<br>(GPL versions 2 and 3 are \
incompatible). There are other examples as<br>well.<br><br>There was a \
meeting of dbus developers at GUADEC and it was agreed by <br>all present that it \
would be best to move dbus to a MIT/X11 style<br>licence.<br><br>The AFL 2.1 (under \
which dbus is currently available) is almost the same<br>as the X11 licence except \
for the patent clause in the AFL. The patent <br>clause is thought to be \
so weak as to be nearly ineffective. The clause<br>causes confusion, \
though, and more importantly, introduces GPL<br>incompatibility.<br><br>The text of \
the proposed new licence (MIT/X11) is as follows: \
<br><br> Permission is hereby granted, free of \
charge, to any person<br> obtaining a copy of this \
software and associated documentation<br> files \
(the "Software"), to deal in the Software without<br> \
restriction, including without limitation the \
rights to use, copy,<br> modify, merge, publish, \
distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies<br> of \
the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is<br> \
furnished to do so, subject to the following \
conditions:<br><br> The above copyright notice and \
this permission notice shall be<br> included in \
all copies or substantial portions of the \
Software.<br><br> THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED \
"AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, \
<br> EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED \
TO THE WARRANTIES OF<br> MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS \
FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND<br> NONINFRINGEMENT. \
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR \
COPYRIGHT<br> HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, \
DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, <br> WHETHER IN AN \
ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING \
FROM,<br> OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE \
SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER<br> DEALINGS IN THE \
SOFTWARE.<br><br>Of course, in order to complete the relicense, we need the approval \
of <br>all contributors to the affected code.<br><br>Please "reply to all" \
to this email (ie: sending replies to<br><<a \
href="mailto:desrt@desrt.ca">desrt@desrt.ca</a>> and <<a \
href="mailto:dbus@lists.freedesktop.org"> dbus@lists.freedesktop.org</a>>) \
indicating your<br>willingness or unwillingness to have your contributions to \
dbus<br>relicensed under the above terms.<br><br>Even if you believe your \
contributions to be trivial, please reply. <br><br>If you have no idea what this \
email is about, then I apologise, but<br>still ask that you please contact me \
directly (Ryan Lortie<br><<a \
href="mailto:desrt@desrt.ca">desrt@desrt.ca</a>>).<br><br>Cheers<br><br> \
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Christian Hammond - <a \
href="mailto:chipx86@chipx86.com">chipx86@chipx86.com</a><br>VMware, Inc.
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