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Subject: Re: [CREATE] desktop vs web
From: Nathan Willis <nwillis () glyphography ! com>
Date: 2010-03-31 13:29:21
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Finally tracked down what I was not-quite-remembering RE a GIMP-based web
app: OnlinePhotoLab.com, from 2000.
It's dead, of course. Turned up a reference to it in Wikipedia (permalink):
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spencer_Kimball&oldid=350028332
Unfortunately, there's no archive.org cache of it either, thanks to
robots.txt: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://onlinephotolab.com .
That's of historical interest only, but it's interesting that someone had
the idea that far back. [I don't know Spencer at all; others probably
do].... There are a few lingering references/reviews to the site launch
around, which make for interesting reading.
Nate
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Nicolas Spalinger <
nicolas_spalinger@sil.org> wrote:
> Nathan Willis wrote:
> > Wasn't there an open web-based raster editor at least *discussed* (if
> > not launched) five-or-more years ago? I recall looking at it at the
> > time, but it wasn't prime-time-ready when I saw it. I don't remember if
> > it was Gimp-derived or not, though. Or maybe I'm imagining the whole
> thing.
> >
> > Also, another interesting point for discussion would be the prospect of
> > building an OFL-based service like Typekit.com ....
>
> Yes, there are definite plans to meet/discuss/move forward the Open Font
> Library at the next LGM along with plenty of other font-related
> things... we're working on it... stay tuned.
>
> BTW, existing online font services already provide various quality open
> fonts in their catalogues, for example Kernest:
> http://kernest.com/licenses/sil-open-font-license
>
> As long as they do not remove or hide away the readmes, FONTLOG and
> metadata indicating clearly the original designer's copyright and
> licensing intents, it's good to see them take advantage of the open
> fonts available and they are welcome to do it. Too many sites blur the
> distinction between the "free fonts", i.e. freeware
> somehow-distribute-but-don't-modify-or-redistributed and the libre/open
> fonts under clear community-approved licensing allowing distribution,
> modification and redistribution. Thankfully there seems to be a reverse
> trend we should encourage of actually showing the metadata and related
> information about the font's design with links back to the author's own
> pages.
>
> Some food for thought on that subject on:
> http://advogato.org/person/yosch/diary/60.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer
> Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary
> http://planet.open-fonts.org
>
>
>
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Finally tracked down what I was not-quite-remembering RE a GIMP-based web app: \
OnlinePhotoLab.com, from 2000.<br><br>It's dead, of course. Turned up a \
reference to it in Wikipedia (permalink): <a \
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spencer_Kimball&oldid=350028332">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spencer_Kimball&oldid=350028332</a> \
Unfortunately, there's no <a href="http://archive.org">archive.org</a> cache of \
it either, thanks to robots.txt: <a \
href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://onlinephotolab.com">http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://onlinephotolab.com</a> \
.<br>
<br>That's of historical interest only, but it's interesting that someone had \
the idea that far back. [I don't know Spencer at all; others probably do].... \
There are a few lingering references/reviews to the site launch around, which make \
for interesting reading.<br>
<br>Nate<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Nicolas \
Spalinger <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:nicolas_spalinger@sil.org">nicolas_spalinger@sil.org</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">Nathan Willis wrote:<br>
> Wasn't there an open web-based raster editor at least *discussed* (if<br>
> not launched) five-or-more years ago? I recall looking at it at the<br>
> time, but it wasn't prime-time-ready when I saw it. I don't remember \
if<br> > it was Gimp-derived or not, though. Or maybe I'm imagining the whole \
thing.<br> ><br>
> Also, another interesting point for discussion would be the prospect of<br>
> building an OFL-based service like Typekit.com ....<br>
<br>
</div>Yes, there are definite plans to meet/discuss/move forward the Open Font<br>
Library at the next LGM along with plenty of other font-related<br>
things... we're working on it... stay tuned.<br>
<br>
BTW, existing online font services already provide various quality open<br>
fonts in their catalogues, for example Kernest:<br>
<a href="http://kernest.com/licenses/sil-open-font-license" \
target="_self">http://kernest.com/licenses/sil-open-font-license</a><br> <br>
As long as they do not remove or hide away the readmes, FONTLOG and<br>
metadata indicating clearly the original designer's copyright and<br>
licensing intents, it's good to see them take advantage of the open<br>
fonts available and they are welcome to do it. Too many sites blur the<br>
distinction between the "free fonts", i.e. freeware<br>
somehow-distribute-but-don't-modify-or-redistributed and the libre/open<br>
fonts under clear community-approved licensing allowing distribution,<br>
modification and redistribution. Thankfully there seems to be a reverse<br>
trend we should encourage of actually showing the metadata and related<br>
information about the font's design with links back to the author's own<br>
pages.<br>
<br>
Some food for thought on that subject on:<br>
<a href="http://advogato.org/person/yosch/diary/60.html" \
target="_self">http://advogato.org/person/yosch/diary/60.html</a><br> <br>
Cheers,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer<br>
Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary<br>
<a href="http://planet.open-fonts.org" \
target="_self">http://planet.open-fonts.org</a><br> <br>
<br>
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