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Subject: Re: [CREATE] Suggested dates for LGM 2009 Montreal
From: "Louis Desjardins" <louis.desjardins () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-11-18 3:26:04
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2008/11/11 Louis Desjardins <louis.desjardins@gmail.com>
> 2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <jon@rejon.org>
>
>> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:53 -0500, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>> > 2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <jon@rejon.org>
>> > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:21 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Anders Brander wrote:
>> > > > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:18 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
>> > > >> I don't think that most people are there for the
>> > presentations, so I
>> > > >> don't think "packing out" the schedule is important. It's
>> > important in
>> > > >> conferences where attendees pay a lot of money to go, and
>> > need to
>> > > >> justify the expense to their bosses by pointing out all
>> > the great
>> > > >> content that's scheduled. We're not in that situation.
>> > > >
>> > > > Well. We shouldn't have lots of presentations, with the
>> > sole purpose of
>> > > > selling the idea to our bosses. But; I don't see why we
>> > should avoid
>> > > > people talking about their small and specialized projects.
>> > Some of the
>> > > > talks I enjoyed most at LGM2008 were some of the very
>> > specialized talks.
>> > >
>> > > Lightning talks! This is exactly the format small
>> > specialised projects
>> > > need - you get 5 minutes (an eternity!) to present what your
>> > project is,
>> > > some of the cool stuff people do with it, and what you're
>> > interested in
>> > > getting at the conference (Users? Hackers? Features?
>> > Feedback?)
>> > >
>> > > The additional advantage of lightning talks is that you can
>> > do say 2
>> > > hours of them, and have 25 presentations, thus keeping lots
>> > of those
>> > > small projects happy. A third advantage: if one comes along
>> > that few
>> > > people are interested in, it's like the commercial break,
>> > they'll stick
>> > > around & watch it anyway, because in 5 minutes there's
>> > another one coming.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Dave.
>> >
>> >
>> > Totally.
>> >
>> > Louis, at the end of the day, you are organizing this, but in
>> > the end we
>> > have to ask ourselves what we our communities are getting out
>> > of this:
>> >
>> > 1.) collaboration time specific to our projects
>> > 2.) collaboration time between projects
>> > 3.) presenting to all about these collaborations
>> > 4.) discovering new projects
>> >
>> >
>> > And, I would rank our conference priorities in that order and
>> > time usage
>> > that way. So, I wonder if we can do that:
>> >
>> > day 1: collaborate within our projects
>> > day 2: presentations from major projects, set talks
>> > day 3: more presentations about collaboration, major talks +
>> > lightning
>> > talks
>> > day 4: collaboration unconference day
>> >
>> > But, I still really think that day 4 could be integrated into
>> > day 3.
>> >
>> > As I said, Louis, you are taking on the big burden, and you
>> > have done
>> > this before so you know what you are doing...just giving my
>> > few
>> > cents/eurocents...
>> >
>> > Great!
>> >
>> > I like pretty much the "what we our communities are getting out of
>> > this" and the "day 1-2-3-4" breakdown parts! :)
>> >
>> > Jon! You got it! ;)
>> >
>> > I suggest we stick with a one-track, 4-day conf/unconf, starting on
>> > Wednesday, closing on Saturday. Leaving lots of room for team work and
>> > discussions within/among teams. Plus, new projects, fresh ideas! Some
>> > small, some larger. And new people too! Man! This will be fun! I think
>> > also that the discussion on how we fill the schedule itself can
>> > continue with more input as we approach the LGM. Basically, we want
>> > things to happen and for this we need flexibility.
>> >
>> > You are probably right we could tighten this up into 3 days but I
>> > think it will be more flexible with 4, so I think I prefer flexibility
>> > at this point. Some people leave early in those confs... some arrive
>> > late... no problem! We take you as you come! :) One single day at LGM
>> > can change someone's life... imagine 4 days!!!
>> >
>> > My main concern for now is establishing and securing the dates. If we
>> > like the 4-day event, I would then propose May 6-7-8-9. I can leave
>> > that open until the end of the week and make a final announcement
>> > about the dates on Friday. How does that sound?
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> > Louis
>>
>> Teams are really quiet right now. How about we give them until week from
>> now to lock in those dates? WED NOV 17.
>
>
> Yep! Let there be a week.
>
Only to remind everyone we're approaching Wednesday...
:)
Louis
>
>
> Louis
>
>>
>>
>> Good!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jon Phillips
>> > San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> --
>> Jon Phillips
>> San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing
>> GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884
>> CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624
>> jon@rejon.org
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>>
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2008/11/11 Louis Desjardins <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>></span><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid \
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> \
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" \
target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a>></span><br></div></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div>On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:53 \
-0500, Louis Desjardins wrote:<br> > 2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <<a \
href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a>><br> > \
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:21 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:<br> > \
> Hi,<br> > ><br>
> > Anders Brander wrote:<br>
> > > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:18 +0100, Dave \
Neary wrote:<br> > > >> I don't think \
that most people are there for the<br> > \
presentations, so I<br> > > >> don't \
think "packing out" the schedule is important. It's<br> > \
important in<br> > > >> \
conferences where attendees pay a lot of money to go, and<br> > \
need to<br> > > >> justify the \
expense to their bosses by pointing out all<br> > the \
great<br> > > >> content that's \
scheduled. We're not in that situation.<br> > > \
><br> > > > Well. We shouldn't have lots \
of presentations, with the<br> > sole purpose of<br>
> > > selling the idea to our bosses. But; I \
don't see why we<br> > should avoid<br>
> > > people talking about their small and \
specialized projects.<br> > Some of the<br>
> > > talks I enjoyed most at LGM2008 were some \
of the very<br> > specialized talks.<br>
> ><br>
> > Lightning talks! This is exactly the format \
small<br> > specialised projects<br>
> > need - you get 5 minutes (an eternity!) to \
present what your<br> > project is,<br>
> > some of the cool stuff people do with it, and \
what you're<br> > interested in<br>
> > getting at the conference (Users? Hackers? \
Features?<br> > Feedback?)<br>
> ><br>
> > The additional advantage of lightning talks is \
that you can<br> > do say 2<br>
> > hours of them, and have 25 presentations, thus \
keeping lots<br> > of those<br>
> > small projects happy. A third advantage: if one \
comes along<br> > that few<br>
> > people are interested in, it's like the \
commercial break,<br> > they'll stick<br>
> > around & watch it anyway, because in 5 \
minutes there's<br> > another one coming.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Dave.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Totally.<br>
><br>
> Louis, at the end of the day, you are organizing \
this, but in<br> > the end we<br>
> have to ask ourselves what we our communities are \
getting out<br> > of this:<br>
><br>
> 1.) collaboration time specific to our projects<br>
> 2.) collaboration time between projects<br>
> 3.) presenting to all about these collaborations<br>
> 4.) discovering new projects<br>
><br>
><br>
> And, I would rank our conference priorities in that \
order and<br> > time usage<br>
> that way. So, I wonder if we can do that:<br>
><br>
> day 1: collaborate within our projects<br>
> day 2: presentations from major projects, set \
talks<br> > day 3: more presentations about \
collaboration, major talks +<br> > lightning<br>
> talks<br>
> day 4: collaboration unconference day<br>
><br>
> But, I still really think that day 4 could be \
integrated into<br> > day 3.<br>
><br>
> As I said, Louis, you are taking on the big burden, \
and you<br> > have done<br>
> this before so you know what you are doing...just \
giving my<br> > few<br>
> cents/eurocents...<br>
><br>
> Great!<br>
><br>
> I like pretty much the "what we our communities are getting out of<br>
> this" and the "day 1-2-3-4" breakdown parts! :)<br>
><br>
> Jon! You got it! ;)<br>
><br>
> I suggest we stick with a one-track, 4-day conf/unconf, starting on<br>
> Wednesday, closing on Saturday. Leaving lots of room for team work and<br>
> discussions within/among teams. Plus, new projects, fresh ideas! Some<br>
> small, some larger. And new people too! Man! This will be fun! I think<br>
> also that the discussion on how we fill the schedule itself can<br>
> continue with more input as we approach the LGM. Basically, we want<br>
> things to happen and for this we need flexibility.<br>
><br>
> You are probably right we could tighten this up into 3 days but I<br>
> think it will be more flexible with 4, so I think I prefer flexibility<br>
> at this point. Some people leave early in those confs... some arrive<br>
> late... no problem! We take you as you come! :) One single day at LGM<br>
> can change someone's life... imagine 4 days!!!<br>
><br>
> My main concern for now is establishing and securing the dates. If we<br>
> like the 4-day event, I would then propose May 6-7-8-9. I can leave<br>
> that open until the end of the week and make a final announcement<br>
> about the dates on Friday. How does that sound?<br>
><br>
> Cheers!<br>
><br>
> Louis<br>
<br>
</div></div>Teams are really quiet right now. How about we give them until week \
from<br> now to lock in those dates? WED NOV \
17.</blockquote></div></div><div><br>Yep! Let there be a \
week.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>Only to remind everyone we're approaching \
Wednesday...<br><br>:)<br><br>Louis<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="gmail_quote"><div><br><font \
color="#888888"><br>Louis<br></font></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
<br>
Good!<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Jon<br>
</font><div><br>
><br>
><br>
> Jon<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Jon Phillips<br>
> San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing<br>
> GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884<br>
> CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624<br>
> <a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" \
target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a><br> > <a \
href="http://www.rejon.org" target="_blank">http://www.rejon.org</a><br> > \
IM/skype: kidproto<br> > Jabber: \
<a href="mailto:rejon@gristle.org" target="_blank">rejon@gristle.org</a><br> > \
IRC: <a href="mailto:rejon@irc.freenode.net" \
target="_blank">rejon@irc.freenode.net</a><br> ><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
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</div>--<br>
<div><div></div><div>Jon Phillips<br>
San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing<br>
GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884<br>
CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624<br>
<a href="mailto:jon@rejon.org" target="_blank">jon@rejon.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.rejon.org" target="_blank">http://www.rejon.org</a><br>
IM/skype: kidproto<br>
Jabber: <a href="mailto:rejon@gristle.org" target="_blank">rejon@gristle.org</a><br>
IRC: <a href="mailto:rejon@irc.freenode.net" \
target="_blank">rejon@irc.freenode.net</a><br> \
<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div> </blockquote></div>
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