[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] 

List:       freeciv-dev
Subject:    [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#14917) Patch: martian.ruleset
From:       "Daniel Markstedt" <markstedt () domain ! hid>
Date:       2007-02-25 9:03:22
Message-ID: 200702250903.l1P93MA9026919 () domain ! hid
[Download RAW message or body]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=14917 >

> [vasc - Tue Jan 03 22:25:17 2006]:
> 
> On 1/3/06, Peter Schaefer <peter.schaefer@domain.hid> wrote:
> >
> > <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=14917 >
> >
> > On 1/2/06, Daniel Markstedt <himasaram@domain.hid> wrote:
> > >
> > > <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=14917 >
> > >
> > > Well, he [Marvin] of course deserves to be leader of the Martians
> more than any
> > > Earthling who never sat his foot in space. =)
> > >
> > > But in the end, I think we'd rather avoid adding (any more)
> trademarked
> > > fictional content to the game...
> >
> > Sorry if this leads me to rollback to some earlier point of the
> > trademark discussion, but:
> >
> > Marvin is a common name, IMHO you would only violate the content of
> a
> > computer game or story if you copied a distinctive part of it - when
> I
> > hear "Marvin", I think of tHhGttG, but not that Marvin was ruler of
> > Mars, so it is not recognizable.
> >
> > I also see no problem with using even a trademarked name inside the
> > game, as long as it is not the name of the game (or maybe a game
> mod)
> > itself. For example, there may be tardemarks for "Andromeda", but
> you
> > sure could still name your characters "Andromeda" if you wanted to.
> >
> > (It is still wise not to use LOTR names since because the names are
> > invented, any one of them is distinctive)
> >
> > Your collection of SciFi-writers, especially Isaac Asimov, would
> make
> > great leaders for a nation named "Foundation". I am not sure there
> > would be any memorable Martian leaders though who were non-
> fictional.
> 
> Given that no human has actually even been there, it is hard for it to
> have
> been ruled by any.
> 
> Although, I suppose, we could use robotic Mars probe names for the
> rulers. :-)
> 
> Express, Mariner, Pathfinder, Phobos, Sojourner, Viking, etc.
> 
> --
> Vasco Alexandre da Silva Costa
> 
> 

Those names are too generic IMO. If we would go with Marvin, what about
having "Aelita" (Tolstoy character) as his female conterpart?

Another idea: use names of the planet in various cultures. In most
cases, this is also the name of the male diety that personifies it, so
it would make sense semantically.

 ~Daniel


["martian_leader.diff" (application/octet-stream)]

Index: data/nation/martian.ruleset
===================================================================
--- data/nation/martian.ruleset	(revision 12685)
+++ data/nation/martian.ruleset	(working copy)
@@ -5,12 +5,17 @@
 groups="Fictional"
 legend=_("Marsmen landed on Earth in 4000 BC!")
 leader=
- "Ray Bradbury",
- "Wernher von Braun",
- "Arthur C. Clarke",
- "Isaac Asimov",
- "Gene Roddenberry"
-leader_sex="Male", "Male", "Male", "Male", "Male"
+ "Nergal",	; Babylonian
+ "Ares",	; Greek
+ "Mars",	; Latin
+ "Mangala",	; Indian
+ "Horus",	; Egyptian
+ "Ma'adim",	; Hebrew
+ "al-Mirrikh",	; Arabic
+ "Merih",	; Turkish
+ "Bahram"	; Persian
+leader_sex="Male", "Male", "Male", "Male", "Male", "Male", "Male", "Male",
+ "Male"
 flag="mars"
 flag_alt = "-"
 city_style = "Babylonian"


[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread]