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List:       freebsd-ppc
Subject:    Re: 13.0 packages?
From:       Jason Bacon <bacon4000 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2021-05-30 13:50:49
Message-ID: bbfe83da-16f0-98cf-25ca-e36684ada39e () gmail ! com
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On 5/29/21 3:07 PM, Jason Bacon wrote:
> On 5/28/21 11:49 PM, Mark Millard wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2021-May-28, at 17:52, Jason Bacon <bacon4000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/26/21 9:40 PM, Mark Millard wrote:
>>>> On 2021-May-20, at 17:26, Jason Bacon <bacon4000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> What's the plan for 13.0 powerpc64 packages?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Mac G5 I was using for port testing, but since upgrading 
>>>>> to 13.0-RELEASE, there haven't been any binary packages for it.  
>>>>> Building everything from source takes too long.
>>>> https://pkg.freebsd.org has a link to:
>>>> • FreeBSD:13:powerpc64 ( 
>>>> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD%3A13%3Apowerpc64 )
>>>> There the dates on things indicate that quarterly is newer
>>>> than latest. meta.txz is reported as having date/time:
>>>> 2021-May-20 07:07
>>>> (as seen in the time zone I'm in).
>>>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org shows that jail 130powerpc64 started
>>>> building on Tue, 18 May 2021 21:01:05 GMT and reached stopped:done:
>>>> status, taking an elapsed time of 34:06:48 . It also reports that
>>>> the server was: pylon .
>>>> But the linked page:
>>>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds/default:quarterly:130powerpc64:cdf5bfe36fe5:pylon 
>>>>
>>>> reports only 1976 ports built of the only 4340 that were queued
>>>> for that specific build.
>>>> There was another jail that built far more: 130releng-powerpc64 is
>>>> indicated to have built 23522 of the 30700 queued. It is listed
>>>> as started on Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:51 GMT, having reached a
>>>> status of stopped:crashed:, with an elapsed time of 73:28:43 .
>>>> Also pylon.
>>>> It appears that http://pylon.nyi.freebsd.org is not currently
>>>> accessible. This limits what can be investigated.
>>>> I would guess that:
>>>> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:powerpc64/quarterly/packagesite.txz
>>>> would give a clue what should be accessible via quarterly.
>>>> It is listed as being 6058988 Bytes in size.
>>>> ===
>>>> Mark Millard
>>>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>>>> ( dsl-only.net went
>>>> away in early 2018-Mar)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the status update.   I'm actually more curious about the 
>>> intentions for the future, though.   Are there plans to build current 
>>> and/or quarterly packages for 13.0 on a regular rotation?   Is it just 
>>> a matter of manpower and hardware to get it rolling?
>>
>> I've no direct knowledge. My only clue is evidence left behind.
>>
>> The existing pylon package-builds include recent attempts
>> (this month) and older ones:
>>
>> git context:
>> quarterly 130powerpc64               Tue, 18 May 2021 21:01:05 GMT   34:06:48
>> quarterly 122powerpc64               Tue, 18 May 2021 02:34:32 GMT   18:26:26
>> default     main-powerpc64           Sat, 08 May 2021 08:16:21 GMT   42:38:52
>>
>> svn context:
>> quarterly 130releng-powerpc64 Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:51 GMT   73:57:51
>> quarterly 121powerpc64               Sat, 23 Jan 2021 02:59:07 GMT   73:28:43
>> default     head-powerpc64           Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:07:32 GMT 157:13:50
>> default     120powerpc64               Tue, 24 Mar 2020 21:37:02 GMT   01:25:55
>>
>> That is all that
>>
>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds?server=pylon
>>
>> shows. It suggests specific single attempts to build:
>>
>> quarterly                       for 13.0 and 12.2
>> default [so: latest] for main [so: 14]
>>
>> as well as a specific quarterly to go with release/13.0.0 's
>> distribution (built in early April). (I ignore older here.)
>>
>> But it also makes clear that there are fairly long periods
>> between attempts, so regular builds of updated ports have not
>> been part of the activity so far.
>>
>> So far as I know, all the above are Big Endian for the
>> context and target, no little endian jails (yet?).
>>
>> pylon does seem to still be inaccessible (for looking at build
>> logs and the like).
>>
>>
>>> Will support for big-endian wane as the focus shifts to LE?
>>
>> I'm not aware of evidence left behind beyond the absence
>> of any little endian jails in the list. If it goes that
>> direction, it likely would take some time for little
>> endian to become primary.
>>
>>
>> FYI:
>> With old PowerMac failures and other issues, my powerpc64
>> and 32-bit powerpc activity has largely stopped: it was
>> only PowerMac based.
>>
>> ===
>> Mark Millard
>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>> ( dsl-only.net went
>> away in early 2018-Mar)
>>
> 
> Well, the quarterly status report from May 5 lists "Setup powerpc 
> pkgbuilder/ref/universal machines" under works in progress, but doesn't 
> provide any more info than that.
> 
> I'm hoping to see current packages built for 13.0 at some point.   That 
> would enable me to resume port testing on my Mac G5.
> 

Just checked again and the situation has improved.

pkg search '.*' | wc is showing 28k packages in quarterly and 22k in 
current.

Still no git in current, but quarterly is better than nothing for most 
port testing, despite the occasional API incompatibility.

-- 
Earth is a beta site.


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