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List:       freebsd-ports
Subject:    Re: [PATCH] update editors/vim from 6.4->7.0
From:       "David O'Brien" <obrien () freebsd ! org>
Date:       2006-06-19 17:30:08
Message-ID: 20060619173008.GC82807 () dragon ! NUXI ! org
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:23:03AM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> >> (06.19.2006 @ 1053 PST): Roman Bogorodskiy said, in 0.8K: <<
> >   David O'Brien wrote:
> > [..]
> > > What I'm not interested in at this time:
> > > * Tweaks to the "WITH_*" build options, or default GUI.
> > 
> > Aren't you interested in changing of the default GUI only at this moment
> > or in general? I think gtk20 GUI would be much better than gtk12 one.
> > Roman Bogorodskiy
> 
> David has taken the time to explain this to me multiple times, so I
> hope that he's okay with me answering this question for him.
> 
> David looks at the GUI situation from an
> absolute-number-of-dependencies perspective, and GTK2 has many more
> dependencies than GTK1.2. The GTK1.2 interface works just fine, and the
> WITH_ switch to install the GTK2 GUI works too. GTK1.2 is much smaller
> than GTK2, and the GTK1.2 code has been in vim for much longer.
> 
> David has never expressed any problem with having vim install GTK2 by
> default if the GTK2 libraries are already installed. Show him a patch,
> and show that it works, and I bet that he'll have no problem with it.
> 
> But making vim use GTK2 by absolute default hasn't been on his list of
> issues that are worth the extra bloat that GTK2 adds.
> 
> David, is this a fair summary?

Adam gives a fair summary.  (David is an old-fart who is still using CTWM
and the same basic .ctwmrc file for the past 12 years, and hasn't bought
into the GNOME & KDE bloatware.)

While there may be a time the GUI lib issue will have to be visited,
isn't it better to not delay or derail the upgrade.

I would love to have a package of everything except the Vim binary, and
then have a dozen Vim binaries built various ways.  And even have things
clean enough to have all of them installed at the same time.
Unfortunately we aren't there yet.

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon?
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