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List:       freebsd-isp
Subject:    - monkey network!
From:       dave () fil ! net
Date:       2000-12-30 14:27:02
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Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> You could ask this on freebsd-isp

Yeap, I guess I could have... EXCEPT...

1) The original post was on the questions list...
2) This "Island ISP" is smaller than many business networks in the USA
3) "Normal" ISP's likely do not dial into someone to back-up a mail server, whereas \
home users and business men would. 4) I have only been learning about FreeBSD for a \
year, meaning the questions people have answers in common terms and the ISP people \
speak a different language. 5) Cross posting is not advisable.
6) Some of the MOST KNOWLEDGABLE FreeBSD people are on the questions list, covering a \
very wide range of topics, and this is NOT standard ISP fair. 7) I had to choose one, \
and I did!

No offence, but I still believe in the FreeBSD people who LIKE TO HELP OTHERS.  \
Sending me to a list that will likely not provide me with any help for six of the \
above seven reasons, does me no good.  (Actually, I have searched and found other \
posts asking simalar questions about backing up routes to an email server! - NONE on \
the ISP list, ALL on the questions list!)

At your suggestion I will cross post this to the ISP list, who knows, maybe some nice \
person there has faced this with a client server.

Please, if ANYBODY has a suggestion that will help me find a solution for a FreeBSD \
problem, I am open to any answer.  But please do just tell me to go someplace else.  \
That doesn't seem fair.

Dave

> 
> =>
> =>I'm on a Philippine Island with 100 monkeys trying to set up a nationwide IP \
> network! =>
> =>Well, actually, I am here (see above) trying to make email more reliable and I \
> saw this post and hoped I could get a little more info... =>
> =>Here is what I've got... Box one with the V-35 from PLDT (Philippine Long \
> Distance Telephone Company) and Emerging Tech's bandwidth manager splitting two \
> class "C" into a server network and a subscriber network. =>
> =>                 PLDT
> =>                   |
> =>Subs Portmaster--BWMGR-- Server HUB
> =>                                 |
> =>                 Email Server -------- Other Servers
> =>
> =>The problem is PLDT goes down, sometimes for days (the joys of a third world \
> country!)  So I would like to add an alternate route through another ISP (slower \
> but a different routing), which will be on a dial up - something like this... =>
> =>                 PLDT
> =>202..102.          |
> =>Subs Portmaster--BWMGR-- Server HUB
> =>                                 |
> =>        Email Server --------202..103------- Other Servers
> =>             |                   |
> =>           Hub Two --203-- "Proxy 2" Box ---- Dial line to #2 ISP 203...
> =>
> =>The 202 from PLDT has 2 "c" address 102 & 103
> =>The 202 from the other ISP has two addresses that I can use.
> =>
> =>Receiving mail is simple with MX records.  Can I get the email server to SEND to \
> ISP #2 when the PLDT line fails? =>
> =>Proxy 2 and the new email server are add-ons at this point... could be the email \
> server also has the dial out (userland PPP) modem if that would be easier.  Also, \
> there are only a few hundred email users so we could use the userland PPP as the \
> "default" and switch to sending on the lease line if the dial up failed.  The \
> problem is sending and automatically switching to the other source when one failed. \
> => =>ANY advice or even a totally different config for the email / dial-up would be \
> a welcome push in the right direction to solve this.  I have actually build this \
> with no prior knowledge of FreeBSD!  In one year of teaching myself from online \
> manuals!  So I am not bound to anybody's structure! =>
> =>Hope someone can help me...
> =>
> =>Dave
> =>
> =>On 10 Apr 2000 07:10:27 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:
> =>
> =>>Hello,
> =>>
> =>>I searched the maillist but, couldn't find a solution to my problem.
> =>>
> =>>I want to connect the LAN to the internet using router with FreeBSD 4.0. I
> =>>didn't setup any router configuration before, so I don't know what to do,
> =>>and below there maybe wrong configurations.
> =>
> =>Look for info on NAT (Network Address Translation).  Also, if you go to
> =>www.dejanews.com/usenet, click on power search, enter *freebsd* in the
> =>forms section, and enter in NATD, you will get a wealth of information.
> =>
> =>
> =>>FreeBSD has 2 ethernets. One is 195.33.200.146 another is 192.168.1.152.
> =>>Router's ip is 195.33.200.145, and setup for the 195.33.200.146 ip address.
> =>>In my BSD I setup default gateway to 195.33.200.145, so my box can connect
> =>>to the internet.
> =>>
> =>>I don't know what to do after that point. Please direct me to a web site or
> =>>help setting this network up.
> =>
> =>man natd
> =>
> =>Other things you might want to look at include the various proxies in the
> =>ports collection. in /usr/ports/www squid is a popular caching proxy.  Also
> =>in /usr/ports/net/socks5 is another popular one.
> =>
> =>>
> =>>My several configuration files are below:
> =>>----- /etc/rc.conf -----
> =>
> =>>router_flags="-q"
> =>>router="routed"
> =>>router_enable="YES"
> =>
> =>You probably dont need routed for such a simple network.
> =>
> =>
> =>        ---Mike
> =>Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)
> =>Sentex Communications Corp,
> =>Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
> =>"Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers
> =>could setup a national IP network." (KDW2)
> =>
> =>
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> 
> -Wash
> 
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