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List:       freebsd-hackers
Subject:    Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility
From:       Devin Teske <dteske () freebsd ! org>
Date:       2019-12-16 14:37:31
Message-ID: F436A4E2-5657-4B23-A574-2D66EA68A240 () freebsd ! org
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Ports is like the "friend zone" that women put men when they are uninterested in you \
as a mate.

"Prove it is popular in ports first" is a terminal fate, not a gateway.

Also, I already told you why it is not a good candidate for ports.

Also, bloat does not describe this software.
— 
Devin

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Dec 2019, at 9:10 AM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> wrote:
> 
> > On December 12, 2019 6:39:05 AM PST, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 6:08 AM Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:19:01PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > > > Devin Teske wrote:
> > > > > I???d like to announce a new utility/library for FreeBSD base
> > > available for review.
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132
> > <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Preview HTML-formatted manuals:
> > > > > https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html
> > <https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html
> > > > 
> > > > > https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html
> > <https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ... etc.
> > > > 
> > > > It cost pain & disputes forcing other code from src/ to ports/ ,
> > > > despite which src/ has bloated.  No more bloat please.
> > > 
> > > It's no bloat:
> > > 
> > > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    23K Dec 12 14:04 /usr/bin/cmp
> > > -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    29K Dec 12 14:04
> > > /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cmp.debug
> > > -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   1.9K Dec 12 14:04
> > /usr/share/man/man1/cmp.1.gz
> > > -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   151B Dec 12 14:04
> > > /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/Kyuafile
> > > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   2.3K Dec 12 14:04
> > > /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test
> > > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   2.6K Dec 12 14:04
> > > /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test2
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Given that on embedded systems debug, kyua and man pages are usually
> > not
> > > installed, cmp(1) adds just 23 kB to the image.
> > > 
> > 
> > Cmb and cmp are different things. Cmb is not yet in the system.
> > 
> > But I'm with Julian on this one: this hasn't been socialized, seems
> > auxiliary to our needs and could better be served as a port. There
> > might be
> > good arguments to include it, but I've not yet seen them clearly
> > articulated yet.
> > 
> > Warner
> > 
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> 
> Agreed.  A good example is mergemaster(8) which started out in ports and was \
> subsequently moved to base. 
> Also, to run our testsuite in /usr/tests one must install devel/kyua from ports.
> 
> I see nothing wrong with putting it in ports for now. It should be there to start \
> with. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use. 
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: https://www.FreeBSD.org
> 
> The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
> 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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