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Subject:    Re: I love the smell of whining in the morning...
From:       Lawrence Pingree <ntpeck () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2009-12-11 23:55:58
Message-ID: 352718.54635.qm () web30107 ! mail ! mud ! yahoo ! com
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I agree with Joel, nss holds their ground on their methodology. What i  
think happens is he vendors select the "best features" that one-up the  
competition and whalla... They win. I thinm Some testing firms can't  
hold water at all and and are just producing hype. Best do your due  
dilligence yourself, and if the tests show what you are most  
imterested, then rely on it if they are reputable. There are many  
religions for people in gear :)  I am curious how TP will change with  
the aqusition. Stronger or weaker? Hmm.

Best Regards,

Lawrence Pingree

On Dec 7, 2009, at 12:42 PM, "alfredhuger@winterhope.com" <alfredhuger@winterhope.com \
  > wrote:

> All,
> 
> I would be careful about lambasting TP too much on this. The 'testing
> lab' or 'certification' industry in general can run all the way from
> wonderful and above board to borderline corrupt. It depends on who
> you're dealing with. I have had many products I've worked on certified
> and the quality of the testing entities varies wildly in both their
> testing methodologies and their respective business practices.
> 
> Cheers,
> al
> 
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Joel M Snyder  
> <Joel.Snyder@opus1.com> wrote:
> > Before the report is even published by an un-named test lab,  
> > TippingPoint is
> > whining about the results.  I guess in the blogosphere, everyone  
> > can hear
> > you scream...
> > 
> > "In the next several days, a report will be published by a small
> > third-party test house that evaluated various intrusion prevention
> > solutions...As much as we would like to endorse the report and  
> > interspersed
> > commentary, we are unable to do so. There are more than a few  
> > discrepancies
> > between the report findings and what our customers have  
> > experienced, what we
> > have found in our own testing and other third-party test results.  
> > In fact,
> > the results are significantly different from the results we found  
> > during
> > paid private testing with this test house a few weeks ago. We made  
> > every
> > effort to engage with this test house and understand the gap  
> > between the
> > report findings and the various other test findings. We even asked  
> > the test
> > house to briefly delay the report until we could work together to  
> > reconcile
> > the differences. The test house refused to do so. It's unfortunate  
> > this type
> > of information has been [sic] published but we will nonetheless  
> > continue to
> > work on behalf of our customers and engage with third-party test  
> > houses to
> > validate and help us improve our industry leading solutions."
> > 
> > http://tippingpointblog.com/
> > 
> > jms
> > --
> > Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719
> > Senior Partner, Opus One       Phone: +1 520 324 0494
> > jms@Opus1.COM                http://www.opus1.com/jms
> > 
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