As long as we are on the subject of internal modems, can some of you well read security types point me to white papers that discuss the intrinsic insecurities of internal modems. I understand that the internal modems are a and the risk that these little buggers represent. I am looking for outside papers which will support that position that I can hand off to my customers when I tell them that their modems will be going away. TIA Dennis Archambault usspcgnj@ibmmail.com Sr Telecom Analyst St Paul Fire & Marine The view expressed are mine and do not represent my employer.