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Subject:    Re: F34, pipewire and orca (screen reader)
From:       Matthias Clasen <mclasen () redhat ! com>
Date:       2021-04-15 12:43:10
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:28 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> Hi folks! Sending to test@ and desktop@, and CCing two folks who
> reported problems.
>
> So I finally got some time today to look into the reports of screen
> reader functionality not working well in F34, with GNOME 40 and
> Pipewire. I wrote the latest F34 nightly live to a USB stick, booted it
> on my test laptop, and turned on the screen reader. It initially seems
> to work - it reads out some of the contents of the welcome window, and
> it reads out things in the GNOME environment when I click on them.
>
> However, after I launch the installer it does not seem to read anything
> in the installer. Is that normal/expected?
>
> I do see that a bug was opened:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940311
> and closed as 'fixed' by pipewire 0.3.24:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-2c994d0609
> but I'm not sure if that's the whole story.
>
> I haven't tested how it behaves after install yet, I'll try and do that
> tomorrow.
>
>
When I turn on orca in my Wayland session here, it speaks (of course,
there's issues
with the a11y stack in general, but it seems to work as well as it has in
F33). So the problem
you are seeing appears to be specific to the live session.

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:28 \
PM Adam Williamson &lt;<a \
href="mailto:adamwill@fedoraproject.org">adamwill@fedoraproject.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi folks! Sending to test@ and desktop@, and CCing \
two folks who<br> reported problems.<br>
<br>
So I finally got some time today to look into the reports of screen<br>
reader functionality not working well in F34, with GNOME 40 and<br>
Pipewire. I wrote the latest F34 nightly live to a USB stick, booted it<br>
on my test laptop, and turned on the screen reader. It initially seems<br>
to work - it reads out some of the contents of the welcome window, and<br>
it reads out things in the GNOME environment when I click on them.<br>
<br>
However, after I launch the installer it does not seem to read anything<br>
in the installer. Is that normal/expected?<br>
<br>
I do see that a bug was opened:<br>
<a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940311" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940311</a><br> and \
closed as &#39;fixed&#39; by pipewire 0.3.24:<br> <a \
href="https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-2c994d0609" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-2c994d0609</a><br>
 but I&#39;m not sure if that&#39;s the whole story.<br>
<br>
I haven&#39;t tested how it behaves after install yet, I&#39;ll try and do that<br>
tomorrow.<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>When I turn on orca in my Wayland \
session here, it speaks (of course, there&#39;s issues</div><div>with the a11y stack \
in general, but it seems to work as well as it has in F33). So the \
problem</div><div>you are seeing appears to be specific to the live \
session.<br></div></div></div>


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