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Subject:    2013-11-27 @ **17:00 UTC** - F20 Final Blocker Bug Review #3 Minutes
From:       Mike Ruckman <roshi () fedoraproject ! org>
Date:       2013-11-27 20:38:00
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Below are the minutes from today's Blocker Review Meeting. We made it
through all the listed blocker (10) and freeze exception (14)
proposals. 

The next meeting will be 2013-12-04 at 17:00 UTC.

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#fedora-blocker-review: F20-blocker-review
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Meeting started by roshi at 17:01:06 UTC. 

Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-27/f20-blocker-review-3.2013-11-27-17.01.html
 Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-27/f20-blocker-review-3.2013-11-27-17.01.txt
 Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-27/f20-blocker-review-3.2013-11-27-17.01.log.html



Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (roshi, 17:01:38)

* Introduction  (roshi, 17:02:53)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (roshi, 17:02:53)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (roshi, 17:02:54)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (roshi, 17:02:54)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (roshi, 17:02:54)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (roshi,
    17:02:54)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (roshi,
    17:02:55)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (roshi, 17:02:55)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (roshi, 17:02:56)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
    (roshi, 17:02:56)
  * 10 Proposed Blockers  (roshi, 17:03:44)
  * 14 Accepted Blockers  (roshi, 17:03:44)
  * 12 Proposed Freeze Exceptions  (roshi, 17:03:44)
  * 7 Accepted Freeze Exceptions  (roshi, 17:03:44)

* (1032620) Doesn't remember POP password  (roshi, 17:04:42)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1032620   (roshi,
    17:04:42)
  * Proposed Blocker, evolution, ASSIGNED  (roshi, 17:04:42)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1032531
    (Viking-Ice, 17:09:12)
  * AGREED: - 1032620 RejectedBlocker - While this is an issue, there
    doesn't seem to be enough people affected in order to be considered
    a blocker for Final Release.  (roshi, 17:10:59)

* (960381) gnome-shell eats a lot of mem  (roshi, 17:11:12)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960381   (roshi,
    17:11:13)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW  (roshi, 17:11:13)
  * AGREED: - 960381 RejectedBlocker - While this is an issue, there
    doesn't seem to be enough people affected in order to be considered
    a blocker for Final Release. If reproduction steps are found, please
    re-propose.  (roshi, 17:14:00)

* (969524) plasma widgets unclickable on arm  (roshi, 17:14:14)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969524   (roshi,
    17:14:15)
  * Proposed Blocker, kdelibs, NEW  (roshi, 17:14:15)
  * AGREED: - 969524 AcceptedBlocker - This bug clearly violates the
    default panel functionality release criteria: "All elements of the
    default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking
    desktops must function correctly in typical use. "  (roshi,
    17:18:40)

* (1004621) plasma-nm doesn't attempt to connect to any listed networks
  on Fedora KDE live  (roshi, 17:18:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1004621   (roshi,
    17:18:53)
  * Proposed Blocker, kde-plasma-nm, ON_QA  (roshi, 17:18:53)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_panel_functionality
  (adamw, 17:25:57)
  * AGREED: - 1004621 AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the Final
    release criteria Default Panel Functionality: "All elements of the
    default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking
    desktops must function correctly in typical use. "  (roshi,
    17:27:41)

* (1034701) When installing F20 from PXE, after clicking on disk
  management, GUI is horribly lagging and 'loop1' process consumes 100%
  of CPU  (roshi, 17:28:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034701   (roshi,
    17:28:09)
  * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW  (roshi, 17:28:09)
  * AGREED: - 1034701 RejectedBlocker - This bug does not seem to be
    reproducible or affect a large set of users so is not considered a
    Final Blocker. If reproduction steps can be found, please
    re-propose.  (roshi, 17:33:53)

* (1035000) SELinux issue when dealing with big_key support  (roshi,
  17:34:02)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035000   (roshi,
    17:34:02)
  * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW  (roshi, 17:34:02)
  * LINK: http://fpaste.org/57269/13855742/ is the IRC discussion from
    yesterday  (adamw, 17:43:28)
  * AGREED: - 1035000 RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This bug
    doesn't clearly violate any criteria, and users can still log on to
    the machine. Accepted as a Freeze Exception.  (roshi, 17:50:39)

* (1026283) Nautilus eating 100% cpu  (roshi, 17:50:54)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026283   (roshi,
    17:50:54)
  * Proposed Blocker, nautilus, NEW  (roshi, 17:50:54)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034714   (adamw,
    17:54:17)
  * AGREED: - 1026283 RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While
    this bug is annoying, there are easy workarounds available. A fix
    will be considered past freeze.  (roshi, 18:11:11)

* (1034714) Regression in 3.8.1 causes breakage in Tracker's SPARQL
  queries  (roshi, 18:11:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034714   (roshi,
    18:11:34)
  * Proposed Blocker, sqlite, ON_QA  (roshi, 18:11:34)
  * AGREED: - 1034714 AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the Final
    criteria: "All applications that can be launched using the standard
    graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default
    installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a
    basic functionality test."  (roshi, 18:23:23)

* (1006386) Boot takes 27 seconds longer with /var/log/journal than
  without  (roshi, 18:23:44)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006386   (roshi,
    18:23:44)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW  (roshi, 18:23:44)
  * AGREED: - 1006386 AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the Beta
    release criteria: "A system installed without a graphical package
    set must boot to a working login prompt without any unintended user
    intervention, and all virtual consoles intended to provide a working
    login prompt must do so."  (roshi, 18:31:34)

* (1026860) Instantiated service is not run, it stays in inactive state
  (and systemd debug log does not state why)  (roshi, 18:31:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026860   (roshi,
    18:31:52)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW  (roshi, 18:31:52)
  * AGREED: - 1026860 AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the alpha post
    installation criteria as well as conditionally violating additional
    initialization requirements: "A system installed with a
    release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is
    possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created
    during installation..."  (roshi, 18:49:25)

* (1033764) When rootfs is on btrfs subvolume, and extlinux is the
  bootloader, the system doesn't boot  (roshi, 18:50:18)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033764   (roshi,
    18:50:18)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW  (roshi, 18:50:19)
  * AGREED: - 1033764 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze provided it does not adversely impact other aspects of
    the installer.  (roshi, 18:53:51)

* (1035316) anaconda should not write the vconsole.keymap=... boot
  option  (roshi, 18:54:05)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035316   (roshi,
    18:54:05)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST  (roshi, 18:54:05)
  * AGREED: - 1035316 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 18:56:49)

* (1031299) displays duplicate for each btrfs device with btrfs
  filesystem show  (roshi, 18:57:08)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031299   (roshi,
    18:57:08)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, btrfs-progs, MODIFIED  (roshi, 18:57:08)
  * LINK: http://imgflip.com/i/52jk0.   (Viking-Ice, 19:02:48)
  * LINK: http://imgflip.com/i/52jk0   (Viking-Ice, 19:02:51)
  * AGREED: - 1031299 RejectedFreezeException - This bug doesn't seem to
    have a large impact on users and can be fixed via updates.  (roshi,
    19:05:36)

* (1033250) The keyboard layout for the virtual console cannot be
  changed using “localectl set-keymap <map>; dracut -f; reboot;†
  (roshi, 19:06:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033250   (roshi,
    19:06:07)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, dracut, NEW  (roshi, 19:06:07)

* (1035029) Reviewing installed updates does not work  (roshi, 19:08:05)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035029   (roshi,
    19:08:05)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-software, NEW  (roshi, 19:08:05)
  * AGREED: - 1035029 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:11:30)

* (1035066) Volume gets restored to 100% after each knotify event
  (roshi, 19:11:55)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035066   (roshi,
    19:11:55)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kde-runtime, MODIFIED  (roshi, 19:11:55)
  * AGREED: - 1035066 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:13:53)

* (1032921) KDE f20 TC2 x86_64 fails to shutdown from menu bar  (roshi,
  19:14:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1032921   (roshi,
    19:14:09)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kde-workspace, NEW  (roshi, 19:14:09)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria#Desktop_shutdown.2C_reboot.2C_logout
  (adamw, 19:16:40)
  * AGREED: - 1032921 AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the Beta
    Release criteria:  "All release-blocking desktops' offered
    mechanisms (if any) for shutting down, logging out and rebooting
    must work. "  (roshi, 19:21:46)

* (1022733) Kernel 3.11 hangs on boot with VIA Velocity network adapters
  (roshi, 19:22:12)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1022733   (roshi,
    19:22:13)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kernel, MODIFIED  (roshi, 19:22:13)
  * AGREED: - 1022733 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:27:04)

* (1028063) Quicklauncher icons missing  (roshi, 19:27:27)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028063   (roshi,
    19:27:28)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lxde-common, ON_QA  (roshi, 19:27:28)
  * AGREED: - 1028063 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:28:56)

* (1035004) Quicklauncher icons missing  (roshi, 19:29:11)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035004   (roshi,
    19:29:11)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lxpanel, ON_QA  (roshi, 19:31:10)
  * AGREED: - 1035004 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:32:30)

* (862871) btrfs /etc/fstab entry, dump and fsck don't apply  (roshi,
  19:32:44)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862871   (roshi,
    19:32:44)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-blivet, ASSIGNED  (roshi,
    19:32:44)
  * AGREED: - 882871 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:37:02)

* (1031696) libvirt: machines get killed when scopes are destroyed
  (roshi, 19:37:17)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031696   (roshi,
    19:37:17)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, systemd, NEW  (roshi, 19:37:17)
  * AGREED: - 1031696 Punt - A fix would be considered past freeze if
    the fix is focused and won't break anything else. Punting for more
    information regarding potential fixes.  (roshi, 19:45:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035423   (adamw,
    19:47:33)

* (1035423) Use after free causes critical warnings in g-s-d, potential
  crasher  (roshi, 19:49:25)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035423   (roshi,
    19:49:25)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, glib2, MODIFIED  (roshi, 19:49:25)
  * AGREED: - 1035423 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:57:33)

* (990910) SELinux blocks cloud-init from installing/updating RPMs with
  scripts.  (roshi, 19:57:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990910   (roshi,
    19:57:46)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, selinux-policy, NEW  (roshi, 19:57:46)
  * AGREED: - 990910 AcceptedFreezeException - A fix will be considered
    past freeze.  (roshi, 19:59:56)

Meeting ended at 20:03:45 UTC.




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