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Subject: Re: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
From: "Aioanei Rares" <schaiba () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-10-30 11:56:54
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Christopher A. Williams <
chriswfedora@cawllc.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 18:34 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> > <sundaram@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 +0000, "Jóhann B.
> > Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > First of all
> > Nvidia does not work and so far and there is
> > nothing that indicates it will work in the
> > near future.
> >
> > Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card
> > users there are, I
> > would think this should be more of a priority. Please
> > don't let this
> > turn into a philosophical discussion (aka a flame
> > fest) on nVidia vs.
> > others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to
> > deal with that and
> > respond to the end user population accordingly...
> >
> >
> > Not philosophical. Just a matter of not having the source code
> > to fix the proprietary drivers. However the reverse
> > engineering effort can yield some results albeit in a delayed
> > manner. Refer
> >
> >
> >
> http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
>
> <snip...>
> >
> > If I append "vga=0x318" to my kernel options in menu.lst for example,
> > i can see the nice plymouth effects (GeForce 8500 GTS) So would it
> > hurt if we would add this option as the default in grub as a
> > (temporary) workaround? Are there cards that don't scale well with
> > "vga=0x318" ?
>
> Interesting... I just tried appending "vga=0x318" to my kernel options.
> It didn't work outright, but...
>
> ...It DID error out and give me a list of scanned VGA options. I
> selected one of them at random (vga=0x323) and "Graphical Plymouth" came
> to life in all its glory.
>
> Given the other feedback, this seems to also work for nVidia cards.
>
> So, why COULDN't we have Plymouth (or a set of appropriate kernel
> options) do something like:
> 1) scan for an appropriate and usable VESA mode for these cards
> 2) Upon discovering there's a really nice one we can use, go with that
> one
> 3) Then fail back to text mode only after nothing available in a
> reasonable VESA mode works.
>
> Solves the problem from what I can tell...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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Sounds nice to me, but I reckon we won't see that in F10.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Christopher A. Williams \
<span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:chriswfedora@cawllc.com">chriswfedora@cawllc.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px \
0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, 2008-10-29 at \
18:34 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:<br>><br>><br>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at \
6:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram<br>> <<a \
href="mailto:sundaram@fedoraproject.org">sundaram@fedoraproject.org</a>> \
wrote:<br> > Christopher A. Williams wrote:<br>> \
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 \
+0000, "Jóhann B.<br>> \
Guðmundsson" wrote:<br>> \
First of all<br>> \
Nvidia does not work \
and so far and there is<br> > \
nothing that indicates it will work in the<br>> \
\
near future.<br>><br>> \
Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card<br>> \
users there are, I<br> > \
would think this should be more of a priority. \
Please<br>> don't let \
this<br>> turn into a \
philosophical discussion (aka a flame<br>> \
fest) on nVidia vs.<br> > \
others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to<br>> \
deal with that and<br>> \
respond to the end user \
population accordingly...<br>><br>><br>> Not \
philosophical. Just a matter of not having the source code<br> > \
to fix the proprietary drivers. However the reverse<br>> \
engineering effort can yield some results albeit in a \
delayed<br>> manner. Refer<br>><br>><br>> \
<a \
href="http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/" \
target="_blank">http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/</a><br>
<br></div><snip...><br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">><br>> If I append "vga=0x318" to my kernel \
options in menu.lst for example,<br>> i can see the nice plymouth effects (GeForce \
8500 GTS) So would it<br>> hurt if we would add this option as the default in grub \
as a<br> > (temporary) workaround? Are there cards that don't scale well \
with<br>> "vga=0x318" ?<br><br></div>Interesting... I just tried \
appending "vga=0x318" to my kernel options.<br>It didn't work outright, \
but...<br> <br>...It DID error out and give me a list of scanned VGA options. \
I<br>selected one of them at random (vga=0x323) and "Graphical Plymouth" \
came<br>to life in all its glory.<br><br>Given the other feedback, this seems to also \
work for nVidia cards.<br> <br>So, why COULDN't we have Plymouth (or a set \
of appropriate kernel<br>options) do something like:<br>1) scan for an appropriate \
and usable VESA mode for these cards<br>2) Upon discovering there's a really nice \
one we can use, go with that<br> one<br>3) Then fail back to text mode only after \
nothing available in a<br>reasonable VESA mode works.<br><br>Solves the problem from \
what I can tell...<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Chris<br> <div>
<div></div>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">Sounds nice to me, but I reckon we \
won't see that in F10.<br>-- <br>Aioanei Rares<br><a \
href="mailto:schaiba@fedoraproject.org">schaiba@fedoraproject.org</a><br>
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