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Subject: Re: marketing Digest, Vol 123, Issue 13
From: Jeremiah Ross <mrjeremiahross () gmail ! com>
Date: 2014-09-12 23:01:51
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I would love to be on board; which platform would we use for the
meeting.... Google Hangouts?
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> 1. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Chris Roberts)
> 2. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch)
> 3. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch)
> 4. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> (Jaroslav Reznik)
> 5. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> (Jiri Eischmann)
> 6. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Joe Brockmeier)
> 7. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch)
> 8. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> (Jared K. Smith)
> 9. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> (Jiri Eischmann)
> 10. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 (Josh Boyer)
> 11. Magazine down? (Matthew Miller)
> 12. Re: Magazine down? (Matthew Miller)
> 13. Re: Magazine down? (Ryan Lerch)
> 14. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> (Paul W. Frields)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:05:48 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Chris Roberts <chris.roberts@croberts.org>
> To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
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> I would totally be up for this. I really think we can get some good ideas
> going and make for better consistent content pushes.
>
> - Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Lamourine" <markllama@gmail.com>
> To: "Fedora Marketing team" <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
>
> I'm in as Sysadmin.....
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Amita Sharma < amsharma@redhat.com >
> wrote:
>
>
> Great Idea, I will love to join :)
>
> Thanks,
> Amita
> On 09/11/2014 03:53 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
>
>
> Count me in as well Ryan ;)
>
> Zacharias
> On 11/09/2014 01:01 πμ, Rikki Endsley wrote:
>
>
> Sounds great, count me in.
>
> I'm switching from CentOS to Fedora on my work laptop this week (have
> Fedora on a home laptop currently), which should make coming up with ideas
> and writing articles easier.
>
>
> Rikki Endsley | Community Evangelist
> Open Source and Standards (OSAS), Red Hat
>
> http://community.redhat.com/
> Twitter: @redhatopen | @rikkiends
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Paul W. Frields" < stickster@gmail.com >
> To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject. org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:34:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:58:19PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering what people think about a fortnightly meeting specially
> dedicatied to the magazine, where we can pitch and discuss ideas for posts
> on the magazine. Obviously not all articles on the mag would come from such
> a meeting (ie the ones that are more "newsy" and are written when something
> is announced)
> I would love to participate in this meeting, since I'd like to broaden
> my Magazine participation as well.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:15:06 -0400
> From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com>
> To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
> Message-ID: <5411AE6A.5010500@redhat.com>
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> On Thu 11 Sep 2014 09:05:48 AM EDT, Chris Roberts wrote:
> > I would totally be up for this. I really think we can get some good
> ideas going and make for better consistent content pushes.
> >
> > - Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Lamourine" <markllama@gmail.com>
> > To: "Fedora Marketing team" <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
> >
> > I'm in as Sysadmin.....
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Amita Sharma < amsharma@redhat.com >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Great Idea, I will love to join :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amita
> > On 09/11/2014 03:53 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:
> >
> >
> > Count me in as well Ryan ;)
> >
> > Zacharias
> > On 11/09/2014 01:01 πμ, Rikki Endsley wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sounds great, count me in.
> >
> > I'm switching from CentOS to Fedora on my work laptop this week (have
> Fedora on a home laptop currently), which should make coming up with ideas
> and writing articles easier.
> >
> >
> > Rikki Endsley | Community Evangelist
> > Open Source and Standards (OSAS), Red Hat
> >
> > http://community.redhat.com/
> > Twitter: @redhatopen | @rikkiends
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Paul W. Frields" < stickster@gmail.com >
> > To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject. org
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:34:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:58:19PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wondering what people think about a fortnightly meeting specially
> > dedicatied to the magazine, where we can pitch and discuss ideas for
> posts
> > on the magazine. Obviously not all articles on the mag would come from
> such
> > a meeting (ie the ones that are more "newsy" and are written when
> something
> > is announced)
> > I would love to participate in this meeting, since I'd like to broaden
> > my Magazine participation as well.
> >
>
> Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400
> - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting?
> We can pick any day really.
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:16:48 -0400
> From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com>
> To: ankursinha@fedoraproject.org, Fedora Marketing team
> <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
> Message-ID: <5411AED0.7050001@redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> On 09/11/2014 12:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 09:37 +0530, Amita Sharma wrote:
> >> Great Idea, I will love to join :)
> > I'll turn up when I can too - probably not while I'm still down under,
> > but as soon as I move some place with a more convenient time difference.
> >
> >
> I know that feeling well! -- there are not many good times in the AU
> timezone that mesh with the US workday :)
>
> That said, the easiest way to participate might be to write up a brief
> pitch, and then one of us can pitch the idea in the meeting!
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:45:37 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@redhat.com>
> To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
> <desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi everyone,
> > Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team
> > build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation
> > release.
> > Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it
> out to
> > these two
> > lists for further review and suggestions.
>
> Christian,
> thanks for help - for release announcement, once the WG is ok with this
> draft,
> feel free to edit
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Alpha_release_announcement
>
> I'm really happy to see this activity happening in working groups, really
> working towards the best product marketing materials! Thank you very much!
>
> Jaroslav
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:40:29 +0200
> From: Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat.com>
> To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc: desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> Message-ID: <1410450029.2847.5.camel@dhcp-28-125.brq.redhat.com>
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> Jared K. Smith píše v St 10. 09. 2014 v 14:09 -0400:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Eeek. Don't call it an "appstore" else the lawyers get all
> > jumpy. I've
> > been referring to it all the time as an "application
> > installer" as I
> > don't fancy fighting that fight.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have to agree here -- not so much because I don't want any sort of a
> > legal trouble, but because there's no "store" to speak of. (Unless,
> > of course, you use "store" to mean "storage", and not "a place to buy
> > things".) Since we don't charge money for any of the applications, I
> > have a hard time calling it a store. Let's call it an "application
> > installer" or a "software installer", but not an application store,
> > please.
>
> What about calling it an "app catalog"? It doesn't imply we sell apps
> and the name is not currently used or claimed by anyone AFAIK (HP used
> to have App Catalog for their webOS, but that's dead now).
> Frankly, I don't like calling it an installer because there is a
> qualitative difference between an installer and the kind of application
> GNOME Software is trying to be.
> What comes to my mind when I hear the word "installer" is a program that
> installs whatever you ask it to install, but I think GNOME Software is
> more than that. It shows in a fashionable way what the platform offers
> app-wise. And it also takes care of updates btw.
>
> Jiri
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:26:53 -0500
> From: Joe Brockmeier <jzb@redhat.com>
> To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
> Message-ID: <5411CD4D.6030305@redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On 09/11/2014 09:15 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> > Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400
> > - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting?
> > We can pick any day really.
>
> That's 9 a.m. my time, so - kinda works. I have a lot of meetings from 8
> a.m. to 11 a.m. depending on the day of week, but I can usually keep an
> eyeball on IRC if I'm at the desk.
>
> I'm fine with the idea of a meeting, but I'd also note - there's nothing
> to stop people from pitching ideas on the mailing list 24/7. So - I
> would hope that the meeting would be more brainstorming and generating
> new ideas, and make sure if someone has a good idea they can run with -
> they can do that without waiting for the meeting.
>
> Silly question - any reason not to fold this in with the other marketing
> meeting?
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
> jzb@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/
> Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:04:00 -0400
> From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com>
> To: jzb@redhat.com, Fedora Marketing team
> <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting
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> On 09/11/2014 12:26 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> > On 09/11/2014 09:15 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> >> Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400
> >> - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting?
> >> We can pick any day really.
> > That's 9 a.m. my time, so - kinda works. I have a lot of meetings from 8
> > a.m. to 11 a.m. depending on the day of week, but I can usually keep an
> > eyeball on IRC if I'm at the desk.
> >
> > I'm fine with the idea of a meeting, but I'd also note - there's nothing
> > to stop people from pitching ideas on the mailing list 24/7.
> No nothing at all, except we rarely get pitches on the list even though
> it is known that it happens this way. The idea of a standalone meeting
> is to hopefully get people to collate a few thoughts, then get them to
> pitch them as ideas in the brainstorm session. Maybe not the way a
> "traditional" pitch works.
>
> regards,
> ryanlerch
>
> > So - I
> > would hope that the meeting would be more brainstorming and generating
> > new ideas, and make sure if someone has a good idea they can run with -
> > they can do that without waiting for the meeting.
> >
> > Silly question - any reason not to fold this in with the other marketing
> > meeting?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:39:56 -0400
> From: "Jared K. Smith" <jsmith@fedoraproject.org>
> To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: fedora-desktop <desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
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> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What about calling it an "app catalog"?
>
>
>
> I'm fine with calling it an "App Catalog" or "Application Catalog" or
> "Software Center". I'm just not comfortable with "store" or "market" or
> "marketplace" since we're not selling anything.
>
> --
> Jared Smith.
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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:50:55 +0200
> From: Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat.com>
> To: desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
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> Michael Catanzaro píše v Čt 11. 09. 2014 v 11:27 -0500:
> > On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 17:40 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > > What about calling it an "app catalog"?
> >
> > How about "software center?"
>
> That's also a good option. A little downside could be that it's used by
> Ubuntu already (Ubuntu Software Center).
>
> Jiri
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:31:23 -0400
> From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>
> To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
> <desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
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> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > Michael Catanzaro píše v Čt 11. 09. 2014 v 11:27 -0500:
> >> On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 17:40 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> >> > What about calling it an "app catalog"?
> >>
> >> How about "software center?"
> >
> > That's also a good option. A little downside could be that it's used by
> > Ubuntu already (Ubuntu Software Center).
>
> There are only so many names you can call a thing that actually
> describe that thing. We shouldn't be afraid to use a generic term
> just because Ubuntu uses it.
>
> josh
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:02:27 -0400
> From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
> To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Magazine down?
> Message-ID: <20140911190227.GA16482@mattdm.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go to
> the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the
> database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which takes me
> to that blank front page....
>
> --
> Matthew Miller
> <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
> Fedora Project Leader
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:09:23 -0400
> From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
> To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Magazine down?
> Message-ID: <20140911190923.GA17122@mattdm.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:02:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go to
> > the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the
> > database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which takes
> me
> > to that blank front page....
>
> Huh. Now it's fine.
>
> --
> Matthew Miller
> <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
> Fedora Project Leader
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:05:56 -0400
> From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com>
> To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Magazine down?
> Message-ID: <541200A4.3040306@redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On Thu 11 Sep 2014 03:09:23 PM EDT, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:02:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >> The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go
> to
> >> the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the
> >> database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which
> takes me
> >> to that blank front page....
> >
> > Huh. Now it's fine.
> >
>
> It seems it was updated (not sure if by someone, or automatically) --
> the wp-admin page is giving me the update database thingo
>
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:35:29 -0400
> From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@gmail.com>
> To: desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org, marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
> Message-ID: <20140911213529.GK29141@jayne-eth.internal.frields.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:46:07AM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team
> > build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation
> release.
> > Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it
> out to these two
> > lists for further review and suggestions.
>
> I took a shot at revising Christian's notes, using the feedback from
> the thread thus far. With this revision I tried to reduce the level
> of formality, the amount of technical terminology, and overall
> sentence length and complexity. I also introduced some bullet points
> where I felt it made the text more readable. I also renamed the
> Software tool here to "App Catalog" because the ease of the tool does
> remind me of e.g. a retail store catalog.
>
> Presented here for your (most welcome!) slings and arrows:
>
> * * *
>
> The Fedora Workstation is a new take on desktop development from the
> Fedora Community. Our goal is to pick the best components, and
> integrate and polish them. This work results in a more polished and
> targeted product than you've previously seen from the Fedora
> desktop. We want our desktop operating system to solve your problems,
> not be your problem.
>
> Easy access to all your software
>
> The cornerstone of the Fedora Workstation is the App Catalog, which
> lets you find all kinds of applications quickly and easily. The
> improvements to the App Catalog in Fedora 21 provide a responsive and
> fast user experience. In addition, Fedora packagers have worked with
> developers around the world to greatly improve the number of featured
> applications.
>
> Improvements to the Terminal application
>
> We want developers to have a great experience, so a strong Terminal
> application is absolutely important. We've integrated a set of
> additional features in the Terminal, such as:
>
> * Support for transparent backgrounds
> * Automatic title updates to help you identify different terminals
> * A simple toggle for system keybindings in both the Terminal and
> GNOME desktop overview to help you search for Terminals by name
>
> Experimental Wayland Support
>
> Wayland is a new and exciting technology that will power Linux
> desktops of the future. With Fedora Workstation 21 you can visit the
> future now, and see how well your applications work with Wayland. You
> can also experiment with making your applications take advantage of
> Wayland's new capabilities. Much of the core Wayland development comes
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1. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Chris Roberts)<br>
2. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch)<br>
3. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch)<br>
4. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
(Jaroslav Reznik)<br>
5. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
(Jiri Eischmann)<br>
6. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Joe Brockmeier)<br>
7. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch)<br>
8. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
(Jared K. Smith)<br>
9. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
(Jiri Eischmann)<br>
10. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 (Josh Boyer)<br>
11. Magazine down? (Matthew Miller)<br>
12. Re: Magazine down? (Matthew Miller)<br>
13. Re: Magazine down? (Ryan Lerch)<br>
14. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
(Paul W. Frields)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:05:48 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Chris Roberts <<a \
href="mailto:chris.roberts@croberts.org">chris.roberts@croberts.org</a>><br>
To: Fedora Marketing team <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
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I would totally be up for this. I really think we can get some good ideas going and \
make for better consistent content pushes.<br> <br>
- Chris<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mark Lamourine" <<a \
href="mailto:markllama@gmail.com">markllama@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Fedora Marketing team" <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:38 AM<br>
Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
<br>
I'm in as Sysadmin.....<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Amita Sharma < <a \
href="mailto:amsharma@redhat.com">amsharma@redhat.com</a> > wrote:<br> <br>
<br>
Great Idea, I will love to join :)<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Amita<br>
On 09/11/2014 03:53 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Count me in as well Ryan ;)<br>
<br>
Zacharias<br>
On 11/09/2014 01:01 πμ, Rikki Endsley wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Sounds great, count me in.<br>
<br>
I'm switching from CentOS to Fedora on my work laptop this week (have Fedora on a \
home laptop currently), which should make coming up with ideas and writing articles \
easier.<br> <br>
<br>
Rikki Endsley | Community Evangelist<br>
Open Source and Standards (OSAS), Red Hat<br>
<br>
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target="_blank">http://community.redhat.com/</a><br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
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From: "Paul W. Frields" < <a \
href="mailto:stickster@gmail.com">stickster@gmail.com</a> ><br>
To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject. org<br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:34:49 PM<br>
Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:58:19PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
Just wondering what people think about a fortnightly meeting specially<br>
dedicatied to the magazine, where we can pitch and discuss ideas for posts<br>
on the magazine. Obviously not all articles on the mag would come from such<br>
a meeting (ie the ones that are more "newsy" and are written when \
something<br> is announced)<br>
I would love to participate in this meeting, since I'd like to broaden<br>
my Magazine participation as well.<br>
<br>
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target="_blank">http://pfrields.fedorapeople</a>. org/<br> The open source story \
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:15:06 -0400<br>
From: Ryan Lerch <<a href="mailto:rlerch@redhat.com">rlerch@redhat.com</a>><br>
To: Fedora Marketing team <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
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On Thu 11 Sep 2014 09:05:48 AM EDT, Chris Roberts wrote:<br>
> I would totally be up for this. I really think we can get some good ideas going \
and make for better consistent content pushes.<br> ><br>
> - Chris<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Mark Lamourine" <<a \
href="mailto:markllama@gmail.com">markllama@gmail.com</a>><br> > To: \
"Fedora Marketing team" <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:38 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
><br>
> I'm in as Sysadmin.....<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Amita Sharma < <a \
href="mailto:amsharma@redhat.com">amsharma@redhat.com</a> > wrote:<br> ><br>
><br>
> Great Idea, I will love to join :)<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Amita<br>
> On 09/11/2014 03:53 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Count me in as well Ryan ;)<br>
><br>
> Zacharias<br>
> On 11/09/2014 01:01 πμ, Rikki Endsley wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Sounds great, count me in.<br>
><br>
> I'm switching from CentOS to Fedora on my work laptop this week (have Fedora \
on a home laptop currently), which should make coming up with ideas and writing \
articles easier.<br> ><br>
><br>
> Rikki Endsley | Community Evangelist<br>
> Open Source and Standards (OSAS), Red Hat<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://community.redhat.com/" \
target="_blank">http://community.redhat.com/</a><br> > Twitter: @redhatopen | \
@rikkiends<br> ><br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
><br>
><br>
> From: "Paul W. Frields" < <a \
href="mailto:stickster@gmail.com">stickster@gmail.com</a> ><br> > To: \
marketing@lists.fedoraproject. org<br> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 \
4:34:49 PM<br> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:58:19PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Just wondering what people think about a fortnightly meeting specially<br>
> dedicatied to the magazine, where we can pitch and discuss ideas for posts<br>
> on the magazine. Obviously not all articles on the mag would come from such<br>
> a meeting (ie the ones that are more "newsy" and are written when \
something<br> > is announced)<br>
> I would love to participate in this meeting, since I'd like to broaden<br>
> my Magazine participation as well.<br>
><br>
<br>
Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400<br>
- UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting?<br>
We can pick any day really.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
ryanlerch<br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:16:48 -0400<br>
From: Ryan Lerch <<a href="mailto:rlerch@redhat.com">rlerch@redhat.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:ankursinha@fedoraproject.org">ankursinha@fedoraproject.org</a>, \
Fedora Marketing team<br>
<<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
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On 09/11/2014 12:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 09:37 +0530, Amita Sharma wrote:<br>
>> Great Idea, I will love to join :)<br>
> I'll turn up when I can too - probably not while I'm still down \
under,<br> > but as soon as I move some place with a more convenient time \
difference.<br> ><br>
><br>
I know that feeling well! -- there are not many good times in the AU<br>
timezone that mesh with the US workday :)<br>
<br>
That said, the easiest way to participate might be to write up a brief<br>
pitch, and then one of us can pitch the idea in the meeting!<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
ryanlerch<br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:45:37 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Jaroslav Reznik <<a \
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> Hi everyone,<br>
> Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team<br>
> build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation<br>
> release.<br>
> Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it out to<br>
> these two<br>
> lists for further review and suggestions.<br>
<br>
Christian,<br>
thanks for help - for release announcement, once the WG is ok with this draft,<br>
feel free to edit <a \
href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Alpha_release_announcement" \
target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Alpha_release_announcement</a><br> \
<br> I'm really happy to see this activity happening in working groups, \
really<br> working towards the best product marketing materials! Thank you very \
much!<br> <br>
Jaroslav<br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:40:29 +0200<br>
From: Jiri Eischmann <<a \
href="mailto:eischmann@redhat.com">eischmann@redhat.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org">desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
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Jared K. Smith píše v St 10. 09. 2014 v 14:09 -0400:<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Hughes <<a \
href="mailto:hughsient@gmail.com">hughsient@gmail.com</a>><br> > wrote:<br>
> Eeek. Don't call it an "appstore" else the lawyers \
get all<br> > jumpy. I've<br>
> been referring to it all the time as an "application<br>
> installer" as I<br>
> don't fancy fighting that fight.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I have to agree here -- not so much because I don't want any sort of a<br>
> legal trouble, but because there's no "store" to speak of. \
(Unless,<br> > of course, you use "store" to mean "storage", \
and not "a place to buy<br> > things".) Since we don't charge \
money for any of the applications, I<br> > have a hard time calling it a store. \
Let's call it an "application<br> > installer" or a "software \
installer", but not an application store,<br> > please.<br>
<br>
What about calling it an "app catalog"? It doesn't imply we sell \
apps<br> and the name is not currently used or claimed by anyone AFAIK (HP used<br>
to have App Catalog for their webOS, but that's dead now).<br>
Frankly, I don't like calling it an installer because there is a<br>
qualitative difference between an installer and the kind of application<br>
GNOME Software is trying to be.<br>
What comes to my mind when I hear the word "installer" is a program \
that<br> installs whatever you ask it to install, but I think GNOME Software is<br>
more than that. It shows in a fashionable way what the platform offers<br>
app-wise. And it also takes care of updates btw.<br>
<br>
Jiri<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:26:53 -0500<br>
From: Joe Brockmeier <<a href="mailto:jzb@redhat.com">jzb@redhat.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting<br>
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On 09/11/2014 09:15 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:<br>
> Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400<br>
> - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting?<br>
> We can pick any day really.<br>
<br>
That's 9 a.m. my time, so - kinda works. I have a lot of meetings from 8<br>
a.m. to 11 a.m. depending on the day of week, but I can usually keep an<br>
eyeball on IRC if I'm at the desk.<br>
<br>
I'm fine with the idea of a meeting, but I'd also note - there's \
nothing<br> to stop people from pitching ideas on the mailing list 24/7. So - I<br>
would hope that the meeting would be more brainstorming and generating<br>
new ideas, and make sure if someone has a good idea they can run with -<br>
they can do that without waiting for the meeting.<br>
<br>
Silly question - any reason not to fold this in with the other marketing<br>
meeting?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
jzb<br>
<br>
--<br>
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target="_blank">http://community.redhat.com/</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:04:00 -0400<br>
From: Ryan Lerch <<a href="mailto:rlerch@redhat.com">rlerch@redhat.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:jzb@redhat.com">jzb@redhat.com</a>, Fedora Marketing team<br>
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On 09/11/2014 12:26 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:<br>
> On 09/11/2014 09:15 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:<br>
>> Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400<br>
>> - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting?<br>
>> We can pick any day really.<br>
> That's 9 a.m. my time, so - kinda works. I have a lot of meetings from 8<br>
> a.m. to 11 a.m. depending on the day of week, but I can usually keep an<br>
> eyeball on IRC if I'm at the desk.<br>
><br>
> I'm fine with the idea of a meeting, but I'd also note - there's \
nothing<br> > to stop people from pitching ideas on the mailing list 24/7.<br>
No nothing at all, except we rarely get pitches on the list even though<br>
it is known that it happens this way. The idea of a standalone meeting<br>
is to hopefully get people to collate a few thoughts, then get them to<br>
pitch them as ideas in the brainstorm session. Maybe not the way a<br>
"traditional" pitch works.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
ryanlerch<br>
<br>
> So - I<br>
> would hope that the meeting would be more brainstorming and generating<br>
> new ideas, and make sure if someone has a good idea they can run with -<br>
> they can do that without waiting for the meeting.<br>
><br>
> Silly question - any reason not to fold this in with the other marketing<br>
> meeting?<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> jzb<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:39:56 -0400<br>
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jiri Eischmann <<a \
href="mailto:eischmann@redhat.com">eischmann@redhat.com</a>><br> wrote:<br>
<br>
> What about calling it an "app catalog"?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm fine with calling it an "App Catalog" or "Application \
Catalog" or<br> "Software Center". I'm just not comfortable with \
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we're not selling anything.<br> <br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:50:55 +0200<br>
From: Jiri Eischmann <<a \
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To: <a href="mailto:desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org">desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
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Michael Catanzaro píše v Čt 11. 09. 2014 v 11:27 -0500:<br>
> On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 17:40 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:<br>
> > What about calling it an "app catalog"?<br>
><br>
> How about "software center?"<br>
<br>
That's also a good option. A little downside could be that it's used by<br>
Ubuntu already (Ubuntu Software Center).<br>
<br>
Jiri<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:31:23 -0400<br>
From: Josh Boyer <<a \
href="mailto:jwboyer@fedoraproject.org">jwboyer@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop<br>
<<a href="mailto:desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org">desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jiri Eischmann <<a \
href="mailto:eischmann@redhat.com">eischmann@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br> > \
Michael Catanzaro píše v Čt 11. 09. 2014 v 11:27 -0500:<br> >> On Thu, \
2014-09-11 at 17:40 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:<br> >> > What about calling \
it an "app catalog"?<br> >><br>
>> How about "software center?"<br>
><br>
> That's also a good option. A little downside could be that it's used \
by<br> > Ubuntu already (Ubuntu Software Center).<br>
<br>
There are only so many names you can call a thing that actually<br>
describe that thing. We shouldn't be afraid to use a generic term<br>
just because Ubuntu uses it.<br>
<br>
josh<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:02:27 -0400<br>
From: Matthew Miller <<a \
href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
To: Fedora Marketing team <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Magazine down?<br>
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The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go to<br>
the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the<br>
database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which takes me<br>
to that blank front page....<br>
<br>
--<br>
Matthew Miller<br>
<<a href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Fedora Project Leader<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:09:23 -0400<br>
From: Matthew Miller <<a \
href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
To: Fedora Marketing team <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Magazine down?<br>
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:02:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:<br>
> The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go to<br>
> the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the<br>
> database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which takes \
me<br> > to that blank front page....<br>
<br>
Huh. Now it's fine.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Matthew Miller<br>
<<a href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Fedora Project Leader<br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:05:56 -0400<br>
From: Ryan Lerch <<a href="mailto:rlerch@redhat.com">rlerch@redhat.com</a>><br>
To: Fedora Marketing team <<a \
href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Cc: Matthew Miller <<a \
href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Magazine down?<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:541200A4.3040306@redhat.com">541200A4.3040306@redhat.com</a>><br>
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On Thu 11 Sep 2014 03:09:23 PM EDT, Matthew Miller wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:02:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:<br>
>> The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go \
to<br> >> the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that \
the<br> >> database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, \
which takes me<br> >> to that blank front page....<br>
><br>
> Huh. Now it's fine.<br>
><br>
<br>
It seems it was updated (not sure if by someone, or automatically) --<br>
the wp-admin page is giving me the update database thingo<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
ryanlerch<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:35:29 -0400<br>
From: "Paul W. Frields" <<a \
href="mailto:stickster@gmail.com">stickster@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org">desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>, \
<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org">marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20140911213529.GK29141@jayne-eth.internal.frields.org">20140911213529.GK29141@jayne-eth.internal.frields.org</a>><br>
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On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:46:07AM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote:<br>
> Hi everyone,<br>
> Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team<br>
> build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation \
release.<br> > Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send \
it out to these two<br> > lists for further review and suggestions.<br>
<br>
I took a shot at revising Christian's notes, using the feedback from<br>
the thread thus far. With this revision I tried to reduce the level<br>
of formality, the amount of technical terminology, and overall<br>
sentence length and complexity. I also introduced some bullet points<br>
where I felt it made the text more readable. I also renamed the<br>
Software tool here to "App Catalog" because the ease of the tool does<br>
remind me of e.g. a retail store catalog.<br>
<br>
Presented here for your (most welcome!) slings and arrows:<br>
<br>
* * *<br>
<br>
The Fedora Workstation is a new take on desktop development from the<br>
Fedora Community. Our goal is to pick the best components, and<br>
integrate and polish them. This work results in a more polished and<br>
targeted product than you've previously seen from the Fedora<br>
desktop. We want our desktop operating system to solve your problems,<br>
not be your problem.<br>
<br>
Easy access to all your software<br>
<br>
The cornerstone of the Fedora Workstation is the App Catalog, which<br>
lets you find all kinds of applications quickly and easily. The<br>
improvements to the App Catalog in Fedora 21 provide a responsive and<br>
fast user experience. In addition, Fedora packagers have worked with<br>
developers around the world to greatly improve the number of featured<br>
applications.<br>
<br>
Improvements to the Terminal application<br>
<br>
We want developers to have a great experience, so a strong Terminal<br>
application is absolutely important. We've integrated a set of<br>
additional features in the Terminal, such as:<br>
<br>
* Support for transparent backgrounds<br>
* Automatic title updates to help you identify different terminals<br>
* A simple toggle for system keybindings in both the Terminal and<br>
GNOME desktop overview to help you search for Terminals by name<br>
<br>
Experimental Wayland Support<br>
<br>
Wayland is a new and exciting technology that will power Linux<br>
desktops of the future. With Fedora Workstation 21 you can visit the<br>
future now, and see how well your applications work with Wayland. You<br>
can also experiment with making your applications take advantage of<br>
Wayland's new capabilities. Much of the core Wayland development comes<br>
from Fedora Workstation contributors, so this is your chance to try<br>
out Wayland straight from the source.<br>
<br>
Developer Assistant<br>
<br>
We recognize developers need an easy and straightforward way to set up<br>
many different programming environments. In Fedora Workstation, we<br>
offer the Developer Assistant, which takes care of this setup for a<br>
large number of language runtimes and IDEs. And now, thanks to its<br>
integration with new Fedora Software Collections, multiple versions of<br>
different languages are available to suit your needs.<br>
<br>
Ease of installation<br>
<br>
We want the installation of the Fedora Workstation to be as<br>
straightforward and simple as possible. In Fedora Workstation we've<br>
distilled this process down to selecting the layout of your physical<br>
media, and then pressing "Install." (In fact, you can even let the<br>
installer choose the disk layout for you.) And because the future of<br>
installations is not optical disks, we ship with an easy to use tool<br>
to help you create bootable USB sticks.<br>
<br>
Toolkit integration<br>
<br>
We recognize you have a job to do, and you want to use the tools that<br>
let you get it done. That's why we've been working hard to make all<br>
your applications in Fedora Workstation look and feel the same. From<br>
the new theming for Qt to the ability to run HTML5 web services in a<br>
chromeless window, we want all your apps to feel like a natural<br>
extension to your desktop.<br>
<br>
Support for extremely high resolution displays (HiDPI)<br>
<br>
Technology never stands still, and as a software developer you're used<br>
to using the best technology available. So we've spent a lot of time<br>
and effort on supporting the new generation of HiDPI displays. That's<br>
probably why Fedora has been called "the best of HiDPI."<br>
<br>
Exciting roadmap<br>
<br>
This Fedora Workstation release is not the end. It's the beginning of<br>
a new era for Fedora on the desktop. We have a roadmap lined up to<br>
bring a range of exciting new technologies to the Linux desktop:<br>
<br>
* Containers<br>
* Smarter virtual machines<br>
* Better development tools<br>
* More web integration<br>
* ...and much more<br>
<br>
So if you want to be part of the future of the Linux desktop be sure<br>
to get on board now!<br>
<br>
* * *<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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