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Subject:    Re: development cycle (Was: Re: What's New in Fedora Core 5 Test2
From:       Rahul Sundaram <sundaram () fedoraproject ! org>
Date:       2006-01-31 12:25:47
Message-ID: 43DF547B.60000 () fedoraproject ! org
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Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

> Am Montag, den 30.01.2006, 10:14 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating:
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 10:25 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > While we are at the topic already: This fact was badly communicated.
> > > There seems to be a whole lot of confusion about the current Fedora
> > > release cycle in the community -- for example the german
> > > wikipedia-writers have a long discussion about it and nowhere can find a
> > > *official* statement [*1] that the nine month cycle for FC5 was only a
> > > exception:
> > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Fedora_Core#6_Monate
> > > 
> > > 
> > I'm confused.  Wasn't our original and still official release schedule
> > every 6-9 months? 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Now I'm confused. Wasn't the original and still official release
> schedule "Fedora Core is released two or tree times a year"? (that would
> be 4-6 months)
> 
> 
> 
This guideline still is true.

> Seems it still is:
> http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html
> Release Interval Fedora: 4-6 months
> 
> 
That page is outdated and is not linked from the current website 
http://fedora.redhat.com. The entire website is scheduled for a 
transition in http://fedoraproject.org.

> http://fedora.redhat.com/about/objectives.html
> 10. Produce robust releases approximately 2-3 times per year [...]
> 
> 
See above.

> > Where is the confusion coming from?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Because nobody ever officially wrote down that the nine months time
> frame of FC5 was a exception.
> 
The development plans were discussed in fedora-devel list at the start 
of the release. Developers involved did state that it was the release 
cycle change was intended only for FC5. Thats as official as it gets.


> And because we have no long term plan for
> FC6 and FC7. 
> 
We decide it when the development work starts. This is how releases are 
planned for almost every software out there.

> I know that Suse and Ubuntu always release around March
> (+/-1 some weeks) and September (+/- some weeks). Fedora is
> unpredictable.
> 
> 
Two to three releases as a rough guideline pretty much stands still with 
Fedora Core 5 being an exception.

"BTW, I know some people that switched to Ubuntu or openSuse because they

had Gnome 2.12 (FC4 has 2.10). Ridiculous IMHO, but some people are like
this.  ;-)  "

There were various third party repositories providing GNOME 2.12 packages in FC4. \
People interested can always work on a backports repository for Fedora. Trying to \
providing all the latest packages all the time is a job for the development release \
and not the GA release in my opinion. Fedora development plans should be decided on \
the basis of the project goals and the developers involved and not to try and win who \
is the first race. 




> BTW, I have no problem when a release slips 2 or 4 weeks due to some
> issues. But later releases shouldn't be effected due to this. So a
> "Fedora releases normally at the end of March and End of September"
> would be a really good idea IMHO.
> 
> 
If you want to discuss how to do all the changes we did within Fedora 
Core 5 development especially the major infrastructure changes such as 
Anaconda, modular Xorg and new GCC as system compiler within the same 
release schedule as the previous releases feel free to start a 
discussion in the fedora-devel list. Considering the major work 
involved, I dont see a way it could have been crammed into a 6 month 
release cycle. What is the problem with the current release model of 
doing a public non-rigid time based releases?

-- 
Rahul 

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