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Subject: Re: Eclipse & Oracle10g-EE
From: Ali Helmy <alihelmy () gmail ! com>
Date: 2005-12-31 22:54:34
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Hey,
About Eclipse, why isn't the version with fedora good enough? Are there som=
e
bugs or problems I should know about? I am going to develop the app as a
java program, to work on windows JVM, but I'm going to develop it on FC4...
What version do you think I should use?
About source control, I haven't really thought about which one to use, but =
I
think I will stick to CVS since it's most popular on the www, and since you
say it fits with Eclipse...
About DBMS, as I said, I want the app to work on windows in the end, so
Oracle is the DBMS I know that has both linux & SQL distributions... Are
there any others that are good enough? I won't be needing any complex
features, just normal SQL queries...
Thanks
On 1/1/06, Rich Stanford <rich@stanfordsystems.org> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 31 December 2005 3:57 pm, Sean Bruno wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 23:48 +0200, Ali Helmy wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > I need to develop a software for a small company, but I really feel
> > > that I want to make it all based on free-software... The software wil=
l
> > > include some code (Duh) which I will write in Java, along with a
> > > DBMS...
> > >
> > > So, I was thinking of using Eclipse for developing the software, and
> > > using the new free Oracle 10g-Express Edition as the DBMS...
> >
>
> Eclipse is a butt-kicking development environment. I would not use the
> version that comes with Fedora, though. I want more control over my
> development environment so I usually install it separately. I also
> install
> Java separately and then control it with environmental variables.
>
> > If you are going to learn a new database, i.e. you haven't worked with
> > Oracle before, why not use PostgreSQL or MySQL...
>
> I agree with Sean here. PostgreSQL or MySQL will be quite a bit less
> complicated to set up and administer than Oracle. And, if you stick to
> mostly "standard" SQL, your applications will be fairly transferable
> between
> DBMS.
>
>
> > > Have any of you tried this combination before? I think I'm settled
> > > about using Eclipse to develop the software, but how about the DBMS?
> > > Suggestions?
> >
> > If you need an alternative to Eclipse, try Kdevelop. However, eclipse
> > is a very useful piece of software for what you are starting.
> >
> > Furthermore, what source control system is the application going to be
> > maintained under? CVS, subversion, etc....
>
> Critical piece of advice here. Be sure that you pick a good one (Eclipse
> works with CVS "out of the box"). Quite often people discount the source
> control system. Where I work, we have over 750Mg of source code under
> CVS.
>
>
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A. Helmy
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Hey,<br><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><br>About Eclipse, why isn't the version with \
fedora good enough? Are there some bugs or problems I should know about? I am going \
to develop the app as a java program, to work on windows JVM, but I'm going to \
develop it on FC4... What version do you think I should use? <br><br>About source \
control, I haven't really thought about which one to use, but I think I will stick to \
CVS since it's most popular on the www, and since you say it fits with \
Eclipse...<br><br>About DBMS, as I said, I want the app to work on windows in the \
end, so Oracle is the DBMS I know that has both linux & SQL distributions... Are \
there any others that are good enough? I won't be needing any complex features, just \
normal SQL queries... <br><br>Thanks<br></div><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On \
1/1/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rich Stanford</b> <<a \
href="mailto:rich@stanfordsystems.org">rich@stanfordsystems.org</a>> \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Saturday 31 December \
2005 3:57 pm, Sean Bruno wrote:<br>> On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 23:48 +0200, Ali Helmy \
wrote:<br>> > Hey,<br>> ><br>> > I need to develop a software for a \
small company, but I really feel <br>> > that I want to make it all based on \
free-software... The software will<br>> > include some code (Duh) which I will \
write in Java, along with a<br>> > DBMS...<br>> ><br>> > So, I was \
thinking of using Eclipse for developing the software, and <br>> > using the \
new free Oracle 10g-Express Edition as the DBMS...<br>><br><br>Eclipse is a \
butt-kicking development environment. I would not use the<br>version that \
comes with Fedora, though. I want more control over my <br>development \
environment so I usually install it separately. I also install<br>Java \
separately and then control it with environmental variables.<br><br>> If you are \
going to learn a new database, i.e. you haven't worked with <br>> Oracle before, \
why not use PostgreSQL or MySQL...<br><br>I agree with Sean \
here. PostgreSQL or MySQL will be quite a bit less<br>complicated to set \
up and administer than Oracle. And, if you stick to<br>mostly \
"standard" SQL, your applications will be fairly transferable between \
<br>DBMS.<br><br><br>> > Have any of you tried this combination before? I think \
I'm settled<br>> > about using Eclipse to develop the software, but how about \
the DBMS?<br>> > Suggestions?<br>><br>> If you need an alternative to \
Eclipse, try Kdevelop. However, eclipse <br>> is a very useful piece of \
software for what you are starting.<br>><br>> Furthermore, what source control \
system is the application going to be<br>> maintained under? CVS, \
subversion, etc....<br><br>Critical piece of advice here. Be sure that you \
pick a good one (Eclipse <br>works with CVS "out of the \
box"). Quite often people discount the source<br>control \
system. Where I work, we have over 750Mg of source code under \
CVS.<br><br><br>--<br>Rich Stanford<br><br>--<br>fedora-list mailing list <br><a \
href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><br>To unsubscribe: <a \
href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a><br></blockquote>
</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>A. Helmy
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