'Re: Some thoughts for the future'

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List:       fedora-list
Subject:    Re: Some thoughts for the future
From:       Richard Kelsch <rich () csst ! net>
Date:       2005-06-30 22:11:30
Message-ID: 42C46E12.1020902 () csst ! net
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Ben Steeves wrote:

>On 6/30/05, Richard Kelsch <rich@csst.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>Also,
>>the "function over form" perspective is one of the reasons why Linux is not
>>marketable to the average computer user; and never will be until programmers
>>finally get together with artists and designers.  Both would be surprised
>>what the end result can do.
>>    
>>
>
>You mean like this? http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/
>
>Not everyone who works on GNOME (specifically, or Open Source / Free
>Software in general) is a hardcore coder.  There are designers,
>graphic artists, usability experts, and yes, even documentation
>writers.
>
>Just because you can't code is no reason not to get involved.  I do
>get irritated when people respond to feature requests with "get
>coding" -- it's arrogant, silly, and in most cases rarely uttered by
>actual project coders.  Making a feature request (a good one, not just
>saying "Why does project X suck so much?  Fix it!", but something with
>use cases, user stories, the lot) is just as valid a form of
>participation as sitting down and checking out the code.
>
>IMHO.  YMMV.
>  
>
You Ben, are a very intelligent man.

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Ben Steeves wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">On 6/30/05, Richard Kelsch <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
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    <pre wrap="">Also,
the "function over form" perspective is one of the reasons why Linux is not
marketable to the average computer user; and never will be until programmers
finally get together with artists and designers.  Both would be surprised
what the end result can do.
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You mean like this? <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/">http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/</a>

Not everyone who works on GNOME (specifically, or Open Source / Free
Software in general) is a hardcore coder.  There are designers,
graphic artists, usability experts, and yes, even documentation
writers.

Just because you can't code is no reason not to get involved.  I do
get irritated when people respond to feature requests with "get
coding" -- it's arrogant, silly, and in most cases rarely uttered by
actual project coders.  Making a feature request (a good one, not just
saying "Why does project X suck so much?  Fix it!", but something with
use cases, user stories, the lot) is just as valid a form of
participation as sitting down and checking out the code.

IMHO.  YMMV.
  </pre>
</blockquote>
You Ben, are a very intelligent man.<br>
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