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Subject:    Re: Season of Docs
From:       "Brian (bex) Exelbierd" <bexelbie () redhat ! com>
Date:       2019-04-23 11:10:46
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Application submitted.

Regards,

bex

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:35 PM Petr Bokoc <pbokoc@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 4/18/19 4:24 PM, Shaun McCance wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 12:06 +0200, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> > > I am working on the Fedora Docs submission to GSoD right now with
> > > Sumantro.  Looks like we need to coordinate to not get 52 Fedora
> > > submissions.
> > > 
> > > Shaun, are you submitting in Fedora's name?
> > Nope. I wouldn't do that without a formal go-ahead from someone like
> > you or Petr.
> 
> 
> Alright, I'm giving you one :) please edit your application and use
> "Fedora Project" as the project name and "http://fedoraproject.org/" as
> the project link.
> 
> 
> > 
> > > Petr - pinging you now.
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > 
> > > bex
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:54 AM Petr Bokoc <pbokoc@redhat.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm doing this way late late - my bad, I've had a pretty terrible
> > > > April
> > > > so far with a string of events that made me mostly unavailable. In
> > > > retrospect I should have probably said something sooner :/. We have
> > > > till
> > > > Tuesday 20:00 UTC, and I think we might still be able to pull
> > > > something off.
> > > > 
> > > > Shaun, thank you for offering to be a mentor.
> > > > 
> > > > I also contacted the installer team yesterday, asking if anyone
> > > > would
> > > > like to be a "technical" mentor for the install guide rewrite
> > > > proposal.
> > > > 
> > > > Other than mentors, we'll need two "Organization administrators",
> > > > people
> > > > who would manage the participation of Fedora in GSoD. Do we have
> > > > anyone?
> > > > Brian, do you think you could do that? And do we know anyone else
> > > > who
> > > > might be able to/want to step up? I originally thought I'd take one
> > > > of
> > > > the spots, but I think I'd be of more use as a mentor, and I don't
> > > > think
> > > > one person can be both.
> > > > 
> > > > By the way, I can't find this anywhere in the docs: can a single
> > > > mentor
> > > > offer to mentor multiple projects?
> > > > 
> > > > Regarding projects, if we can have the same person (i.e. me) offer
> > > > to
> > > > mentor multiple projects, then I'd propose the following:
> > > > 
> > > > * Refactor or enhance the Fedora Installation Guide by creating
> > > > separately published documents for each Fedora variant
> > > > (Workstation/Server/Cloud), taking advantage of Antora
> > > > 
> > > > * Update and enhance current contributor documentation, including
> > > > developing ASCIIDoc markup guidelines and providing a set of
> > > > ASCIIDoc
> > > > snippets for common text editors (Atom, Vim, Emacs, Gedit)
> > > > 
> > > > * Create a documentation set aimed at users completely new to Linux
> > > > and
> > > > Fedora in particular, focusing on describing alternatives to
> > > > software
> > > > commonly used on other operating systems (such as web browsers,
> > > > productivity suites, video/music players, image/video editing
> > > > software…), and concepts such as package management and updates
> > > > 
> > > > Personally I could mentor any of those, or even offer to mentor all
> > > > of
> > > > them if that's allowed.
> > > > 
> > > > If we manage to agree on something, I can work on making a docs
> > > > page for
> > > > GSoD over the weekend, I got the flu so I'm not going anywhere
> > > > anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think?
> > > > 
> > > > Petr
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 4/4/19 6:26 PM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:48 PM Shaun McCance <shaunm@gnome.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I'd like to re-open the conversation about Season of Docs.
> > > > > > Here's the
> > > > > > previous thread, for reference:
> > > > > We forgot to write on that thread, but it was in irc (terrible
> > > > > comms
> > > > > hygiene - sorry) that Fedora is working on the application for
> > > > > Season
> > > > > of Docs.
> > > > > 
> > 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EPO4ATPUOCUL4NLOWD33KXXQS5HOIV2N/
> 
> > > > > > I'm willing to invest some time into coordinating Fedora's
> > > > > > involvement,
> > > > > > whether that's as an actual admin, or just helping the admins
> > > > > > here and
> > > > > > there. Here are a few ideas for possible projects:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Quick start guides for the different spins
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Contributor guide
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Security guide
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Guides geared toward specific types of server deployments,
> > > > > > such as
> > > > > > storage, virtualization, container platform, etc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Guide geared toward developers using Fedora as their
> > > > > > development
> > > > > > platform, as a developer workstation, as a testing/CI platform,
> > > > > > and as
> > > > > > a deployment platform
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Each individual project must have two mentors, which is
> > > > > > different from
> > > > > > how GSoC has run. (Maybe they'll change GSoC too.) But, mentors
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > always need to be people who hang out on this list. We should
> > > > > > look for
> > > > > > people working on those areas to help mentor. Find a developer
> > > > > > working
> > > > > > on Fedora security to help mentor a security guide, for
> > > > > > example.
> > > > > It'd be great to see people step up the plate on these ideas.  It
> > > > > seems like with Shaun, we need just one more person to get at
> > > > > least
> > > > > one idea on the table.
> > > > > 
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > bex
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> > > 
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> > > Fedora Community Action & Impact Coordinator
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<div><div dir="auto">Application submitted.  </div></div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">bex  </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:35 PM Petr Bokoc &lt;<a \
href="mailto:pbokoc@redhat.com">pbokoc@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">On 4/18/19 4:24 PM, Shaun McCance wrote:<br> &gt; On Thu, \
2019-04-18 at 12:06 +0200, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:<br> &gt;&gt; I am working on \
the Fedora Docs submission to GSoD right now with<br> &gt;&gt; Sumantro.   Looks like \
we need to coordinate to not get 52 Fedora<br> &gt;&gt; submissions.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Shaun, are you submitting in Fedora&#39;s name?<br>
&gt; Nope. I wouldn&#39;t do that without a formal go-ahead from someone like<br>
&gt; you or Petr.<br>
<br>
<br>
Alright, I&#39;m giving you one :) please edit your application and use <br>
&quot;Fedora Project&quot; as the project name and &quot;<a \
href="http://fedoraproject.org/" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/</a>&quot; as <br> the project link.<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Petr - pinging you now.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; bex<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:54 AM Petr Bokoc &lt;<a \
href="mailto:pbokoc@redhat.com" target="_blank">pbokoc@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br> \
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m doing this way late late - my bad, I&#39;ve had a pretty \
terrible<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; April<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; so far with a string of events that made me mostly unavailable. In<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; retrospect I should have probably said something sooner :/. We have<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; till<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Tuesday 20:00 UTC, and I think we might still be able to pull<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; something off.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Shaun, thank you for offering to be a mentor.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I also contacted the installer team yesterday, asking if anyone<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; would<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; like to be a &quot;technical&quot; mentor for the install guide \
rewrite<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; proposal.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Other than mentors, we&#39;ll need two &quot;Organization \
administrators&quot;,<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; people<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; who would manage the participation of Fedora in GSoD. Do we have<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; anyone?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Brian, do you think you could do that? And do we know anyone else<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; who<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; might be able to/want to step up? I originally thought I&#39;d take \
one<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the spots, but I think I&#39;d be of more use as a mentor, and I \
don&#39;t<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; think<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; one person can be both.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; By the way, I can&#39;t find this anywhere in the docs: can a single<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; mentor<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; offer to mentor multiple projects?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Regarding projects, if we can have the same person (i.e. me) offer<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; mentor multiple projects, then I&#39;d propose the following:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; * Refactor or enhance the Fedora Installation Guide by creating<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; separately published documents for each Fedora variant<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; (Workstation/Server/Cloud), taking advantage of Antora<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; * Update and enhance current contributor documentation, including<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; developing ASCIIDoc markup guidelines and providing a set of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ASCIIDoc<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; snippets for common text editors (Atom, Vim, Emacs, Gedit)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; * Create a documentation set aimed at users completely new to Linux<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Fedora in particular, focusing on describing alternatives to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; software<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; commonly used on other operating systems (such as web browsers,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; productivity suites, video/music players, image/video editing<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; software…), and concepts such as package management and updates<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Personally I could mentor any of those, or even offer to mentor all<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; them if that&#39;s allowed.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; If we manage to agree on something, I can work on making a docs<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; page for<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; GSoD over the weekend, I got the flu so I&#39;m not going anywhere<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; anyway.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; What do you think?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Petr<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 4/4/19 6:26 PM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:48 PM Shaun McCance &lt;<a \
href="mailto:shaunm@gnome.org" target="_blank">shaunm@gnome.org</a>&gt;<br> \
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;d like to re-open the \
conversation about Season of Docs.<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Here&#39;s the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; previous thread, for reference:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We forgot to write on that thread, but it was in irc (terrible<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; comms<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hygiene - sorry) that Fedora is working on the application for<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Season<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of Docs.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EPO4ATPUOCUL4NLOWD33KXXQS5HOIV2N/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EPO4ATPUOCUL4NLOWD33KXXQS5HOIV2N/</a><br>
 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m willing to invest some time into coordinating \
Fedora&#39;s<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; involvement,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; whether that&#39;s as an actual admin, or just helping the \
admins<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; here and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; there. Here are a few ideas for possible projects:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Quick start guides for the different spins<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Contributor guide<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Security guide<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Guides geared toward specific types of server deployments,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; such as<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; storage, virtualization, container platform, etc<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Guide geared toward developers using Fedora as their<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; development<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; platform, as a developer workstation, as a testing/CI \
platform,<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and as<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a deployment platform<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Each individual project must have two mentors, which is<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; different from<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; how GSoC has run. (Maybe they&#39;ll change GSoC too.) But, \
mentors<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; don&#39;t<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; always need to be people who hang out on this list. We \
should<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; look for<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; people working on those areas to help mentor. Find a \
developer<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; working<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; on Fedora security to help mentor a security guide, for<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; example.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;d be great to see people step up the plate on these ideas.   \
It<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; seems like with Shaun, we need just one more person to get \
at<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; least<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; one idea on the table.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; bex<br>
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