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Subject:    Re: post-FAD: next steps
From:       Zachary Oglesby <zach () oglesby ! co>
Date:       2016-07-01 13:09:12
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 3:40 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> Hi everyone! I heard* that the Docs FAD went really well. And now that
> F24 is out the door, I'm curious to know what happens next. I'm be
> excited to see the first fruits of... Docs.next, I guess!
>
>
>
>
> * https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/event-report-fedora-docs-fad/
>
>
Sorry for the delay, I just noticed this email. Filters are hard.

We still have a lot of prep work needed and that can be tracked in
https://pagure.io/docs-fp-o/issues. We have made a lot of progress on some
of this such as packaging the tools required and understanding the
workflows needed to make everything work.

Our biggest hold ups at this point seem to be, in no specific order,
getting packages reviewed and into Fedora (currently in copr repos),
rewriting guides to fit new format, defined content layout, and design of
the new site.

As I am sure you noticed at the time of the 24 release the current tooling
is awful and causes lot of issues making it hard to provided documentation
on time, or discoverable in a sidebar for that matter.

Because of the ever increasing number of issues I would like to forgo
waiting on re-writing documentation to start using the new tools, once we
get the other items figure out, but I need to get everyone else to buy in
on the plan. (Well at least Pete and a few others who are the ones actually
keeping old VMs around so that they can publish).

If we do not wait for new document formats and publish what we have, and if
Ryan Lerch could get some help with the design work so that he is not
looking at xslt alone and crying I think we *may* be able to have
everything ready before F25 if we push hard to do so.

Zach

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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 3:40 \
PM Matthew Miller &lt;<a \
href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi everyone! I heard* that the Docs \
FAD went really well. And now that<br> F24 is out the door, I&#39;m curious to know \
what happens next. I&#39;m be<br> excited to see the first fruits of... Docs.next, I \
guess!<br> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* <a href="https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/event-report-fedora-docs-fad/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/event-report-fedora-docs-fad/</a><br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sorry \
for the delay, I just noticed this email. Filters are hard.</div><div><span \
style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">We still \
have a lot of prep work needed and that can be tracked in  </span><a \
href="https://pagure.io/docs-fp-o/issues">https://pagure.io/docs-fp-o/issues</a>. We \
have made a lot of progress on some of this such as packaging the tools required and \
understanding the workflows needed to make everything \
work.</div><div><br></div><div>Our biggest hold ups at this point seem to be, in no \
specific order, getting packages reviewed and into Fedora (currently in copr repos), \
rewriting guides to fit new format, defined content layout, and design of the new \
site.</div><div><br></div><div>As I am sure you noticed at the time of the 24 release \
the current tooling is awful and causes lot of issues making it hard to provided \
documentation on time, or discoverable in a sidebar for that matter.  \
</div><div><br></div><div>Because of the ever increasing number of issues I would \
like to forgo waiting on re-writing documentation to start using the new tools, once \
we get the other items figure out, but I need to get everyone else to buy in on the \
plan. (Well at least Pete and a few others who are the ones actually keeping old VMs \
around so that they can publish).</div><div><br></div><div>If we do not wait for new \
document formats and publish what we have, and if Ryan Lerch could get some help with \
the design work so that he is not looking at xslt alone and crying I think we *may* \
be able to have everything ready before F25 if we push hard to do \
so.</div><div><br></div><div>Zach</div></div></div>


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