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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: pipenv removal in F40
From:       Mattia Verga via devel <devel () lists ! fedoraproject ! org>
Date:       2024-04-30 9:24:02
Message-ID: 60aae4dd-d847-4683-8e36-72d3bf02b2e5 () proton ! me
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Il 30/04/24 10:47 AM, Kevin Kofler via devel ha scritto:
> Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> If you wish to help, I guess you can send a pull request to the release
>> notes...
> Or Mattia could simply unretire and adopt the package.
>
Yeah, well... no! :-)

I've re-read the former discussion about pipenv being orphaned and why. 
I thought it was decided to drop pipenv because too much dependencies 
were bundled, but now that I re-read the thread I see it was because 
it's a nightmare to maintain because of too much bundled dependencies 
and too low workforce.

I do not have any more spare time to put in that effort myself, so I'll 
just live with "pip install --user pipenv" ;-)

I'll see to drop a note to F40 release notes, because even if I agree a 
change proposal was not required I think this could be an high impact 
change that python developers using Fedora need to know.

As a side note, I dream that one day someone will come out with a clever 
solution for packaging python stuff without the burden to package all 
needed dependencies... something like installing packaged dependencies 
with dnf plus automatically use a dedicated virtual environment and pip 
to install everything not already packaged in Fedora... well, it's just 
a dream!

Mattia

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